[...] I've just now heard that the blu-ray format is
generally considered a flop and a commercial failure.
Also, I've just heard one of the factors contributing to
blu-rays being a "flop" is that apparently, many people did
not realize that a blu-ray player can also play DVD discs.
[...]
player can also play DVD discs. I'm haering now that many people didn't want to buy a blu-ray player because they already had a lot of DVD discs and didn't think a blu-ray player could play them.
On 27 Jan 2023 at 05:01p, Nightfox pondered and said...
player can also play DVD discs. I'm haering now that many people didn't
want to buy a blu-ray player because they already had a lot of DVD discs
and didn't think a blu-ray player could play them.
That's me, I thought a blu-ray player would not play DVD... this is news
to me that it might :)
I'm thinking, is this really serious? I find it hard to believe.
[...] I've just now heard that the blu-ray format is
generally considered a flop and a commercial failure.
Also, I've just heard one of the factors contributing to
blu-rays being a "flop" is that apparently, many people did
not realize that a blu-ray player can also play DVD discs.
[...]
What are the sources of what you "heard"?
player can also play DVD discs. I'm haering now that many people
didn't want to buy a blu-ray player because they already had a lot
of DVD discs and didn't think a blu-ray player could play them.
That's me, I thought a blu-ray player would not play DVD... this is news to me that it might :)
not play well in your appliance.
If you had a DVD apliance that worked, you had no reason to upgrade. Image
DVD reading software is much more mature in Linux than Bluray software. If you operate mainly with FOSS, it does not make much sense to mess with Blueray. If you want HD movies you are much better off buying them digital
I'm curious what made you think a blu-ray player wouldn't play DVDs? Why wouldn't it be backward compatible?
Just honestly thought I needed a blu-ray player for playing DVDs just as
I needed a DVD for DVDs... I have a unused blu-ray player lying around
so must put it to the test...
This article, for instance:
https://bit.ly/3WKhX6e
Full URL: https://heidijoyrobertson.medium.com/to-innovate-or-not-lessons-from-blu-r ays-f ailures-ce2c56486eea
Also:
https://www.foxnews.com/tech/why-has-blu-ray-failed-to-catch-hold
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bluray/comments/d4992t/i_hate_that_blu_ray_4k_blu _ray_ is_written_off_as/
Ogg wrote to Nightfox <=-
Hello Nightfox!
** On Saturday 28.01.23 - 17:28, Nightfox wrote to Ogg:
Myself, I have had no compelling reason to move to BluRay
simply because my DVD player still works just fine even after
15 years. The images are "good enuff" on my modest 32" TV.
However, if I had one those 58" screens or something, *then* I
might be persuaded to move to a BluRay machine and the new
format. But I bet that most homes still don't have 58" TVs. ;)
I think some would be surprised just HOW MANY homes have
50" + TV's these days. Heck, even the cost of a 65" is so
low compared to where they used to be.
The straglers out there in rural land are slowly dumping
those DVDs also since 4g/5g internet or things like
starlink are starting to reach them.
My parents get no cable/DSL broadband to their home, but I
set them up with an unlimited 4G LTE wifi connected in
their home. They use the heck out of it now.
They are 70+ and have a 65" LED TV :DSL
I'm not sure I agree with that.. I don't really like to rely on streaming s m, and that software works very well for blu-ray, including 4K blu-ray discs
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Ogg wrote to iNoNaMouSe <=-
Dunno the stats. But at 58", the rooms would need to be large,
and I don't think most rural homes have large spaces for such
tv screens for proper distancing for viewing.
My parents get no cable/DSL broadband to their home, but I
set them up with an unlimited 4G LTE wifi connected in
their home. They use the heck out of it now.
LTE == mobile? Who offers unlimited mobile data at LTE speeds?
Are you sure they don't get throttled after a certain amount?
They are 70+ and have a 65" LED TV :DSL
They DO say that seniors lean toward to "large print" in time..
and that screen is probably the result! :D
Dunno the stats. But at 58", the rooms would need to be large,
and I don't think most rural homes have large spaces for such
tv screens for proper distancing for viewing.
I live in a condominium, which is not large by any means, and
I have a 75" screen in my living room, and 55" in both bedrooms.
They are easily viewable and comfortable viewing.
Yes, mobile LTE. There are companies that still offer this
unlimited service. My parents have it, and I utilize it in my
RV for streaming and internet when traveling.
Ogg wrote to iNoNaMouSe <=-
75" ..omg! I have a friend who has a 58" screen and I can't
stand being closer than 8' from it to watch it comfortably.
How far is your main seating for the 75"?
Personally, I still have a modest 32" 16:4, and it is quite
good enuff even at 10'.
Personally, I still have a modest 32" 16:4, and it is quite
good enuff even at 10'.
You would be in the minority of everyone I know. I think
very few are using a TV smaller than 45" in their homes
anymore these days. Just look at the numbers from
television sales. They don't lie :D
A 65" Television is now the most popular purchased television size
in North America
https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/5/20682913/most-popular-tv-size-65-inch-55 -preference-market-research iNoNaMouSe
I live in a condominium, which is not large by any means, and
https://bit.ly/3WKhX6e
Full URL:
https://heidijoyrobertson.medium.com/to-innovate-or-not-lessons-from-
blu-r ays-f ailures-ce2c56486eea
OK.. that just sounds like an opinion piece. One person. Does
I still think there is plenty market for physical DVDs. Not
Maybe things have changed, but the general imcompatibility of blu-rays with anything FOSS was a matter of magazine articles not long ago. There were some comercial packages that worked so-so and that was the most you would get.
Sure, but I'm talking about blu-ray, not DVD. It seems DVDs actually still elative failure (compared to DVDs).
I sent multiple articles.. It's not just one person, but it seems a lot of people seem to think blu-ray has been a relative failure.
I still think there is plenty market for physical DVDs. Not
Sure, but I'm talking about blu-ray, not DVD. It seems
DVDs actually still sell more than blu-ray discs,
apparently because DVDs are less expensive and people have
been confused about what blu-rays are etc.. Hence why
people seem to think blu-ray is a relative failure
(compared to DVDs).
I sent multiple articles.. It's not just one person, but it seems a
lot of people seem to think blu-ray has been a relative failure.
You sent three. But the last one, reddit, did not load.
DVD vs BluRay, noted. But I meant the physical thing, either
DVD or BR. I see discount bins filled with both, ranging in
I think the people who wrote those bluray and dvd is dead
articles live in cities and have no idea of the lack of high
speed internet in rural areas.
TV's these days. Heck, even the cost of a 65" is so low compared
to where they used to be. The straglers out there in rural land
are slowly dumping those DVDs also since 4g/5g internet or things
like starlink are starting to reach them.
I live in a condominium, which is not large by any means, and
I have a 75" screen in my living room, and 55" in both bedrooms.
They are easily viewable and comfortable viewing.
You would be in the minority of everyone I know. I think very few
are using a TV smaller than 45" in their homes anymore these days.
Just look at the numbers from television sales. They don't lie :D
A 65" Television is now the most popular purchased television size
in North America
32" was a respectable size over 14 years ago. ;) I think I
paid a bit over $400 for mine. That was a fair chunk of
change.
32" was a respectable size over 14 years ago. ;) I think I
paid a bit over $400 for mine. That was a fair chunk of
change.
"was a respectable size".. :)
It seems like people keep wanting things that are bigger
and bigger..
It probably depends on what room you're putting it in. I think many people
but for a bedroom I think one a lot smaller would be just fine. I had a 32 edroom though.
Anyway.. back to BluRay.. I don't see it as a failed tech. BR
discs can usually have more feature-content added and longer
playing times than a standard DVD. BR is far from dead. And.. I
thought DL-DVD (8GB) was amazing wrt to storage.
People having a TV in the bedroom is news to me.
Around here, if people has an extra TV, it is usually in the kitchen so they can get their daily dose of misinformation while having breakfast.
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Around here, if people has an extra TV, it is usually in the kitchen so they can get their daily dose of misinformation while having breakfast.
Oh? I'm curious where you live, since it seems very common for people to ha
To be honest, I think TV is every bit as harmful as heroine these days. I don't know why anybody would have a set if it is not linked to some activity not related to watching TV broadcasts (such as playing game consoles or watching DVDs or whatever). The idea people has more than one TV set at home absolutely terrifies me.
With my TVs, I often watch media from my home media server, and sometimes ov it. I do occasionally play games on it too, but I'm more of a PC gamer than
With my TVs, I often watch media from my home media server, and
sometimes ov it. I do occasionally play games on it too, but I'm more
of a PC gamer than
It is terrifying because it shows people is getting addicted to a mind-rotting drug, and they are not even aware.
If you watch a TV broadcast now and a TV broadcast in one year, the decline in content and quality will horrorify you. Every single time I am accidentally exposed to TV, the material on it is tailored to dumber people than the last time. I am sure it is so gradual that if you are exposed to it regularly, you won't notice, but oh boy! Once you notice you will create a terrorist org to bomb TV stations in the name of sanity.
I am sure you are familiar with the boiling frog analogy. If you put a
frog in boiling water, it will try to escape. If you put a frog in warm water and then slowly heat the water up, it won't notice it is being boiled alive. As somebody who does not watch TV regularly, I can tell you that is exactly what is happening with TV.
I heard that people used to say similar things about books (that they're min
I'm thinking, is this really serious? I find it hard to believe.
I'm thinking, is this really serious? I find it hard to believe.
I doubt that's hard to believe, honestly.
For me, these are the main 2 reasons this format failed:
1) Streaming media surclassed physical media, even for videogames.
2) Blu-rays aren't compatible with DVD players.
Somehow reminds me the flop of the Video CD format. No one wanted to buy a VCD player knowing that they could still watch movies with VHS.
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