But why do I miss so many messages? It just appears to be fsxnet, not any of my other nets. I miss a LOT of original test messages that are responded to, and miss a LOT of responses to messages that I post until I see responses to those responses...

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On 10 Feb 2024 at 10:09p, Shurato pondered and said...

But why do I miss so many messages? It just appears to be fsxnet, not
any of my other nets. I miss a LOT of original test messages that are responded to, and miss a LOT of responses to messages that I post until
I see responses to those responses...

I am not sure. Feel free to post a few of those messages here along with their kludge lines and we can try to suss what's up.

What we should try to do is narrow down the direction of travel of the packets to your BBS so we can suss what you are seeing and what you are not.

So first up here's a reply from me in NET 1, could you reply to this and quote the kludges so we see how it got to you. Thanks :)

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But why do I miss so many messages?

That's a good question. That should not happen.

It just appears to be fsxnet, not any of my other nets. I miss a LOT of original test messages that are responded to, and miss a LOT of responses to messages that I post until I see responses to those responses...

That is curious. Do you see anything out of the ordinary in your logs?

I wonder if HUB 2 is working as expected?

Sorry no answers, only more questions. Maybe we can dig a bit and find out why this happens and solve it.

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Re: Not really a test...
By: Shurato to All on Sat Feb 10 2024 10:09 pm

But why do I miss so many messages? It just appears to be fsxnet, not any of my other nets. I miss a LOT of original test messages that are responded to, and miss a LOT of responses to messages that I post until I see responses to those responses...

There could be a couple of forces at play here.

It would help if you looked through the replies (to the messages you didnt see), and figure out what is common with those messages (that you dont get). It would help if you share the MSGIDs of those replies.

Its super easy for me to trace what that message is replying to, and then its a matter of seeing if you are in the SEENBY already and what put you there.

Might be a problem with the hub, or it might be another hub that had a direct link to your address in a past life.

Or something else weird...


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On 10 Feb 2024 at 10:09p, Shurato pondered and said...

But why do I miss so many messages? It just appears to be fsxnet,

not

any of my other nets. I miss a LOT of original test messages that

are

responded to, and miss a LOT of responses to messages that I post

until

I see responses to those responses...

I am not sure. Feel free to post a few of those messages here along with their kludge lines and we can try to suss what's up.

What we should try to do is narrow down the direction of travel of the packets to your BBS so we can suss what you are seeing and what you are
not.

So first up here's a reply from me in NET 1, could you reply to this and quote the kludges so we see how it got to you. Thanks :)

I have no way of quoting Kludge Lines.

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not
going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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But why do I miss so many messages?

That's a good question. That should not happen.

It just appears to be fsxnet, not any of my other nets. I miss a LOT of
original test messages that are responded to, and miss a LOT of

responses to

messages that I post until I see responses to those responses...

That is curious. Do you see anything out of the ordinary in your logs?

I just see packets coming and going normally. No excessive badmail or any errors.

I wonder if HUB 2 is working as expected?

Sorry no answers, only more questions. Maybe we can dig a bit and find out why this happens and solve it.

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That is curious. Do you see anything out of the ordinary in your logs?

I just see packets coming and going normally. No excessive badmail or any errors.

I wonder if you are not getting some messages for some reason?

If that is the case we need to figure out why and take steps so that doesn't happen.

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That is curious. Do you see anything out of the ordinary in your logs?

I just see packets coming and going normally. No excessive badmail or

any

errors.

I wonder if you are not getting some messages for some reason?

If that is the case we need to figure out why and take steps so that doesn't happen.

Agreed. I'm wondering if I'm the only one. I just noticed because there
area lot of responses to test messages that I don't see, then there are responses to responses to my messages. I didn't see the oriignal
responses... It could be Hub 2, don't know.

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Agreed. I'm wondering if I'm the only one.

It could be everyone in net 2 has been affected but noone has noticed.

I just noticed because there area lot of responses to test messages that I don't see, then there are responses to responses to my messages. I didn't see the oriignal responses... It could be Hub 2, don't know.

I don't know either but a little digging may help to isolate the issue.

I am going to send you three messages in a few minutes. If you can let me know what you see that would be good.

It might also help to know the node number where the message originated when you see it elsewhere. Then we can look at the expected path those messages travel the net.

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On 12 Feb 2024 at 11:17p, Al pondered and said...

I am going to send you three messages in a few minutes. If you can let
me know what you see that would be good.

It might also help to know the node number where the message originated when you see it elsewhere. Then we can look at the expected path those messages travel the net.

thanks Al.

Hopefully we can suss it. Thanks also Deon for the offer of help.

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I wonder if you are not getting some messages for some reason?

If that is the case we need to figure out why and take steps so that
doesn't happen.

Agreed. I'm wondering if I'm the only one. I just noticed because there area lot of responses to test messages that I don't see, then there are responses to responses to my messages. I didn't see the oriignal responses... It could be Hub 2, don't know.

This is test 3. This message is going out via hub4.

I am getting an error ATM connecting to hub 1 but you should see all three messages is good time.

Let me know if you see them.

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I am going to send you three messages in a few minutes. If you can let
me know what you see that would be good.

It might also help to know the node number where the message originated
when you see it elsewhere. Then we can look at the expected path those
messages travel the net.

thanks Al.

Hopefully we can suss it. Thanks also Deon for the offer of help.

No worries. I expect nothing but perhaps something will shake out.

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I wonder if you are not getting some messages for some reason?

If that is the case we need to figure out why and take steps so that
doesn't happen.

Agreed. I'm wondering if I'm the only one. I just noticed because there area lot of responses to test messages that I don't see, then there are responses to responses to my messages. I didn't see the oriignal responses... It could be Hub 2, don't know.

Here is test number 1. This message is only being sent to hub 1. I am also going to send a message via hub 3 and 4.

Let me know if you see them. Hopefully you will see them all.

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I wonder if you are not getting some messages for some reason?

If that is the case we need to figure out why and take steps so that
doesn't happen.

Agreed. I'm wondering if I'm the only one. I just noticed because there area lot of responses to test messages that I don't see, then there are responses to responses to my messages. I didn't see the oriignal responses... It could be Hub 2, don't know.

This is test 2. This message is going via hub3.

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On 12 Feb 2024 at 11:45p, Al pondered and said...

I am getting an error ATM connecting to hub 1 but you should see all
three messages is good time.

My bad, I had BinkD down, trying to build HPT etc. and failing badly at it.

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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I am getting an error ATM connecting to hub 1 but you should see all
three messages is good time.

My bad, I had BinkD down, trying to build HPT etc. and failing badly at it.

No worries, all is well.

Let me know if I can help with your new husky build.

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I wonder if you are not getting some messages for some reason?

If that is the case we need to figure out why and take steps so that
doesn't happen.

Agreed. I'm wondering if I'm the only one. I just noticed because

there

area lot of responses to test messages that I don't see, then there are
responses to responses to my messages. I didn't see the oriignal
responses... It could be Hub 2, don't know.

This is test 3. This message is going out via hub4.

See it.

I am getting an error ATM connecting to hub 1 but you should see all three messages is good time.

Let me know if you see them.

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I wonder if you are not getting some messages for some reason?

If that is the case we need to figure out why and take steps so that
doesn't happen.

Agreed. I'm wondering if I'm the only one. I just noticed because

there

area lot of responses to test messages that I don't see, then there are
responses to responses to my messages. I didn't see the oriignal
responses... It could be Hub 2, don't know.

Here is test number 1. This message is only being sent to hub 1. I am also going to send a message via hub 3 and 4.

See it.

Let me know if you see them. Hopefully you will see them all.

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I wonder if you are not getting some messages for some reason?

If that is the case we need to figure out why and take steps so that
doesn't happen.

Agreed. I'm wondering if I'm the only one. I just noticed because

there

area lot of responses to test messages that I don't see, then there are
responses to responses to my messages. I didn't see the oriignal
responses... It could be Hub 2, don't know.

This is test 2. This message is going via hub3.

See it.

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This is test 2. This message is going via hub3.

See it.

Good you did get it after a while. That still leaves the original question of why you are missing some messages.

If you can track it, it would be good to know the node number of the messages that are missed so we can try to follow up along the expected path.

I know it is not easy to tell the node/net numbers of messages you missed but if you can do that it would give us something to look at.

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I missed 21:1/105's post to the space echo.

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I missed 21:1/105's post to the space echo.

I see three messages from 21:1/105 yesterday. You only got two of them?

It's bad that this happens. I wonder if all nodes in net 2 are affected.

These kind of details are helpful.

I wonder if there is a BBS at 21:2/100 where we can log in and have a look?

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