"MS-DOS and Windows 3.11 still run train dashboards at German railway - company listed admin job for 30-year-old operating system"
A German railway firm posted a vacancy for a Windows 3.11 Administrator just before the weekend. In addition to skills in wrangling Windows for Workgroups on the 30-year-old operating system, the recruiter would look upon a candidate more fondly for possessing MS-DOS experience. The admin would purportedly oversee systems with 166MHz processors and a whopping 8MB of RAM. It might seem slightly worrying that modern railways are
still running on such ancient systems, but mission-critical systems
often adhere to the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" philosophy.
Via Tom's Hardware:
http://tinyurl.com/mvsbn4zv
Jay
"MS-DOS and Windows 3.11 still run train dashboards at
German railway -company listed admin job for 30-year-old
operating system"
A German railway firm posted a vacancy for a Windows 3.11
Administrator...
Perhaps the system could be better served with a linux port-
over.
lmao this is an awful idea. linux doesn't need to be on everything.
and likely the outcome would be a system that doesn't work as well,
costs a significant amount more to maintain, etc. vs one that has had
all it's bugs ironed out over 30 years.
A German railway firm posted a vacancy for a Windows 3.11 Administrator just before the weekend. In addition to skills in wrangling Windows for Workgroups on the 30-year-old operating system, the recruiter would look upon a candidate more fondly for possessing MS-DOS experience. The admin would purportedly oversee systems with 166MHz processors and a whopping 8MB of RAM. It might seem slightly worrying that modern railways are still running on such ancient systems, but mission-critical systems often adhere to the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" philosophy.
"MS-DOS and Windows 3.11 still run train dashboards at German railway - company listed admin job for 30-year-old operating system"
A German railway firm posted a vacancy for a Windows 3.11 Administrator just before the weekend. In addition to skills in wrangling Windows for Workgroups on the 30-year-old operating system, the recruiter would look upon a candidate more fondly for possessing MS-DOS experience. The admin would purportedly oversee systems with 166MHz processors and a whopping 8MB of RAM. It might seem slightly worrying that modern railways are
still running on such ancient systems, but mission-critical systems
often adhere to the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" philosophy.
But.. I suppose if those dashboards are not connected to the
internet and independent, then what's the harm in sticking with
Win3.11. However.. the hardware would surely be hard to
maintain for too long as ram and capacitors blow out, etc.
On 31 Jan 2024, Ogg said the following...
Perhaps the system could be better served with a linux port-
over.
lmao this is an awful idea. linux doesn't need to be on everything.
and likely the outcome would be a system that doesn't work as well,
costs a significant amount more to maintain, etc. vs one that has had
all it's bugs ironed out over 30 years.
While I have no idea about this rail, many commercial MS-DOS/Win 3.11 applications run hardware that you can still purchase new today. What
is it, the PC-100 board - or something-100... you can still buy 486, Pentium, etc. single board computers today that aren't old consumer
grade hardware.
I remember watching a Linus Tech Tips video awhile back where they
bought a brand new Windows 98 PC...
SirRonmit wrote to Warpslide <=-
Man, that was what my BBS ran on way back in the 90s :(
I should move and apply, LOL!
Ogg wrote to Warpslide <=-
But.. I suppose if those dashboards are not connected to the
internet and independent, then what's the harm in sticking with
Win3.11. However.. the hardware would surely be hard to
maintain for too long as ram and capacitors blow out, etc.
fusion wrote to Ogg <=-
On 31 Jan 2024, Ogg said the following...
Perhaps the system could be better served with a linux port-
over.
lmao this is an awful idea. linux doesn't need to be on everything.
Mickey wrote to fusion <=-
As a little sidenote here, Windows 11 has a VM program coming (if it's
not already there) and the last Windows 11 on my desktop is screwing
with my VMWare Workstation Pro. The Windows 11 machine kept crashing to the green screen, and after a smaller update it removed all the Network adapters used by by beloved VMWare forcing me to do a reinstall. Microsoft, I don't want your frickin' software.
paulie420 wrote to Ogg <=-
While I have no idea about this rail, many commercial MS-DOS/Win 3.11 applications run hardware that you can still purchase new today. What
is it, the PC-100 board - or something-100... you can still buy 486, Pentium, etc. single board computers today that aren't old consumer
grade hardware.
At any rate, I'd look at one of these jobs if my knowledge sufficed and
it paid a decent salary; I'm happy that MS-DOS / Win 3.11 lives on
today so long as the infrastructure it runs isn't hampered by the shortcomings of the OS'.
--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
* Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)
Norton Desktop was a nice desktop environment, I really liked it. Rumor
had it that IBM had ported Presentation Manager over to Windows, but I
never saw it in action.
paulie420 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I still have it installed on a 486 laying around here somewhere. :P
But.. I suppose if those dashboards are not connected to the
internet and independent, then what's the harm in sticking with
Win3.11. However.. the hardware would surely be hard to maintain
for too long as ram and capacitors blow out, etc.
While I have no idea about this rail, many commercial MS-DOS/Win 3.11 applications run hardware that you can still purchase new today. What is it, the PC-100 board - or something-100... you can still buy 486, Pentium, etc. single board computers today that aren't old consumer grade hardware.
Really? DOS timeslicing was so bad and there wasn't a decent windows
FOSSIL back then, must have been challenging.
Really? DOS timeslicing was so bad and there wasn't a decent windows
FOSSIL back then, must have been challenging.
Yeah - Spitfire was DOS only and I (totally just forgot that name of the program I was using to run 2 nodes - local and dialup). But that program ran great! I'll have to see if I have it around here, I know I made a virtual desktop in vmware to plat around with it again.
I think it was QEMM?
I think it was QEMM?
Desqview?? :P
I think it was QEMM?
Desqview?? :P
YES!!!!! Thank you!!!
paulie420 wrote to SirRonmit <=-
I used Desqview a lot back in the day... and still continue using Desqview/X through today - yes, I still have a few MS-DOS machines in service. :P
I used Desqview a lot back in the day... and still continue using Desqview/X through today - yes, I still have a few MS-DOS machines in
I always wanted to use DV/X, thought it was a great client for when I
had old *nix boxes I managed. The idea of displaying an X app on another client would have been cool.
Desqview?? :P
YES!!!!! Thank you!!!
Man my brain was hurting on that one LOL
I used Desqview a lot back in the day... and still continue using Desqview/X through today - yes, I still have a few MS-DOS machines in service. :P
I used Desqview a lot back in the day... and still continue using Desqview/X through today - yes, I still have a few MS-DOS machines in service. :P
DesqView was awesome. I learned about it from my dad (who was always
into computers), and I remember him also trying a similar program called DoubleDOS, but I remember DoubleDOS not working very well.
So I legit used Desqview first on MS-DOS 3.33 with my Telegard BBS - I couldn't believe that I could use my computer again, while having callers!!! Most of the time, it worked OK.
Fast forward to Desqview/X, that was a SOLID release - I started thinking of it AS an OS... and it served me well as I 'upgraded' to Renegade.
This was right around the time I was drooling over Synchronet... I still remember the $299 adverts in the BBS magazines and thinking that I might just be able to get on 'corporate quality' BBS softwarez. :P
I downloaded Sync the next month... at 2400 bps. UGH.
Broadcom is messing even more with your VM Workstation install. :(
We're starting to use a virtualization platform at work that uses
Hyper-V, I'm starting to play with it here. We're Nutanix and VMWare
mostly, moving off of the latter for most of our sites. I'm scared to
be a small VMWare shop now.
Mhansel739 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
May I inquire as to what is happening with VMWare? Most of our
customers that we setup servers for, we use ESXI. I work for a small
MSP in Michigan. I am a Hyper-V fan (good, bad, or otherwise). I am getting exposed to ESXI a little bit. Back to my "question". Our environments are small - 1-4 servers typically (1 host, 2-3 VMs). How
is Broadcom (they own VMWare, right?) messing with it?
They removed perpetual licensing, jacked up support pricing, removed
some of the licensing most beneficial to smaller companies and removed
the free version of ESXi, which a lot of people used to learn VMWare in homelabs. They're trying to extract as much money out of it as they can while they can.
Mhansel739 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
That is HORRIBLE! I understand trying to maximize profits out of a
product line, but to take away from the small businesses is stupid.
Perhaps the system could be better served with a linux port-
over.
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