Removing the fsxNet echomail + network stats echo FSX_STA
Instead just posting this info to fsxnet.nz website.

Thoughts?

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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Removing the fsxNet echomail + network stats echo FSX_STA
Instead just posting this info to fsxnet.nz website.

Fine by me.. :D Not sure that matters however.

Just let us know so we can nuke it on our ends.

... Shortcut: longest distance between two points

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Removing the fsxNet echomail + network stats echo FSX_STA
Instead just posting this info to fsxnet.nz website.

Thoughts?

I actually use some of the info in that one to keep up with whether or
not I am running the correct versions of Galactic Dynasty and For Honour.
I don't check the website much but also don't really pay attention to
the other stats messages in that echo.



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Avon wrote to All <=-

Removing the fsxNet echomail + network stats echo FSX_STA
Instead just posting this info to fsxnet.nz website.

Thoughts?

Sounds like a good idea to me.



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Hello Avon,

03 Apr 24 14:50, you wrote to All:

Removing the fsxNet echomail + network stats echo FSX_STA
Instead just posting this info to fsxnet.nz website.

Thoughts?

sometimes i read the stats echoes for debugging. FSX_STA was the first i realized that the mailflow in net4 is kinda hectic.

Regards,
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dp

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Removing the fsxNet echomail + network stats echo FSX_STA
Instead just posting this info to fsxnet.nz website.

Thoughts?

I read the stats area at different times for different reasons. It's handy.

I have no problem reading it in the echo or the web but I find the echo convenient.

Of course those who don't want the stats can delink if they choose.

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On 03 Apr 2024 at 10:52a, Al pondered and said...

I read the stats area at different times for different reasons. It's handy.

I have no problem reading it in the echo or the web but I find the echo convenient.

so far (on balance) I'd say feedback is more weighted to leave as is in echomail... but what I think I'll do next is ensure we're getting some stats (where we can) for other HUBs posted into the echo and also work to get the same content all up on fsxnet.nz as well as for now it's a bit hit and miss as to what is available and where.

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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On Wed Apr 3 18:18:00 2024, Roon wrote to Avon <=-

Hello Avon,

03 Apr 24 14:50, you wrote to All:

Removing the fsxNet echomail + network stats echo FSX_STA
Instead just posting this info to fsxnet.nz website.

Thoughts?

sometimes i read the stats echoes for debugging. FSX_STA was the first i realized that the mailflow in net4 is kinda hectic.

I agree, even just having the stats area with regular mail you can tell if your feed has stopped working by there being no stats (Though BBS Ads also fulfill this purpose.)

Andrew


=== TitanMail/freebsd v1.2.4

--- Talisman v0.53-dev (FreeBSD/amd64)
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I guess I like thumbing though them,
I don't have a great reason to not consolidate though.

--------------------------------
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][ Queen City BBS ][
][ queencitybbs.ddns.net:607 ][

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Raspberry Pi/32)
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On 04 Apr 2024 at 01:17p, Avon pondered and said...

so far (on balance) I'd say feedback is more weighted to leave as is in echomail... but what I think I'll do next is ensure we're getting some stats (where we can) for other HUBs posted into the echo and also work
to get the same content all up on fsxnet.nz as well as for now it's a
bit hit and miss as to what is available and where.

first steps today, working on getting some stats for NET 4 with a focus on BinkP traffic as well as files/echomail held at the HUB.

I've done some work on batch files for this and the test results for both are posted below.

[snip]
____ _ __ __
/ __/ _____ _ __ / | / / ___ / /_
/ /_ / ___/ | |/_/ / |/ / / _ \ / __/
/ __/ (__ ) _> < / /| / / __// /_
/_/ /____/ /_/|_/ /_/ |_/ \___/ \__/

The [F]un, [S]imple, e[X]perimental Network
===========================================

(Est. 2015 | Zone 21 | fsxnet.nz)

21:4/100 Queue Status
Sat Apr 6 16:44:51 2024

+------------------+--------+-----------+-----------+-----------+
| Node | Days | NetMail | EchoMail | Files | +------------------+--------+-----------+-----------+-----------+
| 21:4/101 | 6 | 0 | 380082 | 0 |
| 21:4/103 | 6 | 0 | 1.0513M | 0 |
| 21:4/104 | 6 | 0 | 640758 | 0 |
| 21:4/108 | 0 | 0 | 857 | 0 |
| 21:4/109 | 0 | 0 | 857 | 0 |
| 21:4/110 | 6 | 0 | 1.0512M | 0 |
| 21:4/118 | 6 | 0 | 644583 | 0 |
| 21:4/120 | 6 | 0 | 766291 | 0 |
| 21:4/124 | 0 | 0 | 858 | 0 |
| 21:4/125 | 6 | 0 | 1.0520M | 0 |
| 21:4/128 | 6 | 0 | 641498 | 0 |
| 21:4/134 | 0 | 0 | 1402 | 0 |
| 21:4/136 | 6 | 0 | 679895 | 0 |
| 21:4/137 | 0 | 0 | 860 | 0 |
| 21:4/138 | 0 | 0 | 42088 | 0 |
| 21:4/139 | 6 | 0 | 1.0531M | 0 |
| 21:4/141 | 6 | 0 | 1.0531M | 0 |
| 21:4/142 | 6 | 0 | 1.0589M | 0 |
| 21:4/144 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 182117 |
| 21:4/147 | 6 | 0 | 1.0500M | 0 |
| 21:4/156 | 3 | 0 | 620183 | 0 |
| 21:4/158 | 6 | 0 | 1.0531M | 0 |
| 21:4/163 | 6 | 0 | 1.0531M | 0 |
| 21:4/164 | 6 | 0 | 645836 | 0 |
| 21:4/167 | 6 | 0 | 1.0530M | 0 |
| 21:4/170 | 6 | 0 | 1.0530M | 0 |
| 21:4/171 | 6 | 0 | 1.0530M | 0 |
| 21:4/172 | 6 | 0 | 683858 | 0 |
| 21:4/173 | 6 | 0 | 1.0530M | 0 |
| 21:4/177 | 6 | 0 | 1.0529M | 0 |
| 21:4/179 | 6 | 0 | 1.0529M | 0 |
| 21:4/181 | 6 | 0 | 1.0530M | 0 |
| 21:4/182 | 6 | 0 | 1.0530M | 0 |
| 21:4/184 | 6 | 0 | 1.0530M | 0 |
| 21:4/186 | 6 | 0 | 1.0530M | 0 |
| 21:4/187 | 6 | 0 | 1.0530M | 0 | +------------------+--------+-----------+-----------+-----------+

[snip]

and..

[snip]

fsxNet Niba HUB (21:4/100) - Dunedin, New Zealand
-- System Connections Summary --
Sat, 06 Apr 2024

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º 21:1/100 ³* 184 0 20 20 0³ 0:00:09³ 953k 21k³347k³110kº
º 21:3/113 ³ 2 0 0 0 0³ 0:00:00³ 0 0 ³ -- ³ -- º
º 21:4/102 ³* 29 0 256 0 0³ 0:00:29³ 1k 369k³1784³ 13kº
º 21:4/105 ³* 2 0 179 179 0³ 0:06:57³ 2k 223k³1650³ 555º
º 21:4/106 ³* 21 0 20 20 0³ 0:00:37³ 25k 19k³1354³1268º
º 21:4/107 ³* 0 0 201 201 0³ 0:03:32³ 0 257k³1662³1245º
º 21:4/108 ³* 1 0 0 0 0³ 0:00:17³ 0 621k³ 498³ 37kº
º 21:4/109 ³* 82 0 0 0 0³ 0:01:23³ 0 128k³1086³1580º º!21:4/110 ³? 0 0 113 0 0³ 0:00:00³ 0 0 ³ -- ³ -- º
º 21:4/113 ³* 0 0 145 145 0³ 0:03:58³ 0 149k³1126³ 642º
º 21:4/114 ³* 0 0 164 164 0³ 0:10:50³ 0 188k³1221³ 296º
º 21:4/116 ³* 0 0 64 64 0³ 0:01:11³ 0 79k³1294³1141º
º 21:4/121 ³* 0 0 142 142 0³ 0:05:28³ 0 146k³1122³ 459º
º 21:4/122 ³* 157 0 0 0 0³ 0:01:34³ 1k 186k³1320³2049º
º 21:4/124 ³* 41 0 0 0 0³ 0:00:12³ 0 270k³1762³ 23kº
º 21:4/131 ³* 44 0 200 197 0³ 0:06:55³ 1k 255k³1664³ 636º
º 21:4/134 ³* 2 0 0 0 0³ 0:00:01³ 0 0 ³ -- ³ -- º º!21:4/136 ³? 0 0 471 0 0³ 0:00:00³ 0 0 ³ -- ³ -- º
º 21:4/137 ³* 123 0 243 0 0³ 0:01:38³ 0 149k³1128³1563º
º 21:4/138 ³* 3 0 0 0 0³ 0:02:41³ 0 114k³ 67³ 726º
º 21:4/144 ³* 15 0 438 0 0³ 0:00:29³ 0 463k³7357³ 16kº
º 21:4/145 ³* 41 0 199 199 0³ 0:06:08³ 0 258k³1664³ 718º
º 21:4/148 ³* 13 0 189 189 0³ 0:09:14³ 11k 248k³1628³ 481º
º 21:4/149 ³* 0 0 201 201 0³ 0:03:17³ 0 258k³1664³1342º
º 21:4/151 ³* 36 0 200 200 0³ 0:06:57³ 0 258k³1664³ 634º
º 21:4/152 ³ 39 0 0 0 0³ 0:00:19³ 0 0 ³ -- ³ -- º
º 21:4/153 ³* 40 0 0 0 0³ 0:00:42³ 0 271k³1760³6621º º!21:4/156 ³ 0 0 471 0 471³ 0:03:00³ 0 0 ³ -- ³ -- º
º 21:4/157 ³* 0 0 228 180 0³ 0:05:15³ 0 275k³1753³ 894º
º 21:4/162 ³* 0 0 200 200 0³ 0:04:57³ 0 258k³1657³ 890º º!21:4/163 ³? 0 0 337 0 0³ 0:00:00³ 0 0 ³ -- ³ -- º º!21:4/164 ³? 0 0 471 0 0³ 0:00:00³ 0 0 ³ -- ³ -- º º!21:4/171 ³? 0 0 474 0 0³ 0:00:00³ 0 0 ³ -- ³ -- º
º 21:4/174 ³* 111 0 0 0 0³ 0:01:30³ 0 263k³1756³3003º
º 21:4/176 ³* 0 0 200 200 0³ 0:05:31³ 0 258k³1654³ 799º
º 21:4/183 ³* 6 0 79 79 0³ 0:03:28³ 0 116k³1784³ 575º
º 21:4/185 ³* 41 0 0 0 0³ 0:00:38³ 0 269k³1764³7256º ÇÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÅÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÅÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÅÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÅÄÄÄÄÅÄÄÄĶ
º Systems: 37 ³ 1033 0 5905 2580 471³ 1:39:18³ 998k 6M³ 47k³1268º ÈÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÏÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÏÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÏÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÏÍÍÍÍÏÍÍÍͼ


Hourly Analysis for Sat, 06 Apr 2024
5.0k ´................................................ ÚÄ[Û] in ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
³................................................ ³ traf : 110k ³
³................................................ ³ avgl : 0.21% ³
³................................................ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ
³................................................ ÚÄ[²] in unsec ÄÄ¿
3.8k ´................................................ ³ traf : 0 ³
³................................................ ³ avgl : 0.00% ³
³................................................ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ
³...............................±................ ÚÄ[±] out ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
³...............................±................ ³ traf : 2M ³
2.5k ´...............................±................ ³ avgl : 5.16% ³
³...............................±................ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ
³...............................±................ ÚÄ[°] out unsec Ä¿
³...............................±................ ³ traf : 0 ³
³...............................±................ ³ avgl : 0.00% ³
1.2k ´...............................±................ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ
³...............................±................
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³ÛÛÛÛÛÛ±±ÛÛ±ÛÛÛÛÛ±ÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛ±Û±..............
0 ÅÄÂÄÂÄÂÄÂÄÂÄÂÄÂÄÂÄÂÄÂÄÂÄÂÄÂÄÂÄÂÄÂÄÂÄÂÄÂÄÂÄÂÄÂÄÂÄÂ
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4

[snip]

this is data pulled around 4.45pm on my Sat but I'll see if I can get these both auto posted into the stats echo tonight at my midnight... all working well and some backing up of logs also being automated, next steps will be to get these two reports onto fsxnet.nz

so yep, getting there but it's taken me a few hours work to get to this point this afternoon, lots of cloning scripts and modding for the new HUB instance.

Best, Paul

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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On 06 Apr 2024 at 04:51p, Avon pondered and said...

working well and some backing up of logs also being automated, next
steps will be to get these two reports onto fsxnet.nz

Spent a few more hours tonight on getting the data to fsxnet.nz

I have created a couple of pages for NET 4 under the Stats section of the website. Hopefully when nightly utils run closer to midnight my time these pages will also be updated.

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
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Hi Avon (and other fsxNet long-timers), I'm curious about the fsxNet nets and hubs. (not because of any problems or concerns, just curiousity)

Is there a difference between the nets within fsxNet?
My understanding is there's a hub for each net, and those within the net receive echomail and files from their net's hub. Are some hubs offering different connection methods? Are there other differences?


Thanks again for keeping this great network running smoothly!


Chris/akacastor

--- Maximus 3.01
* Origin: Another Millennium - Canada - another.tel (21:1/162)

Hi Avon (and other fsxNet long-timers), I'm curious about the fsxNet nets and hubs. (not because of any problems or concerns, just curiousity)

Is there a difference between the nets within fsxNet?

As I recall.. :)

We started off with just net 1 and the FSX_GEN area.

If I remember right net 2 was there almost from the start.

fsxNet grew fairly quickly and soon a few more message areas were added and then a few file areas. More nets were added to get the job done.

I had to take a hiatus from BBSing because I was working out of town for a short time and when I came back net 4 was just starting up and I was assigned a node in net 4 when I came back on the scene.

Dan ran a great net/hub, his departure is a bit of a loss for fsxNet but I understand it's not always easy to find time for hobbies. Dan also wrote many mods for Mystic.

My understanding is there's a hub for each net, and those within the net receive echomail and files from their net's hub. Are some hubs offering different connection methods? Are there other differences?

Binkd is the main protocol used these days but ftp or even EMSI with a modem (if you have one). Some mailers do EMSI over telnet. Mine does but these are few and far between. I think net 3 might have such a thing.

Net 3 is using a home grown tosser/mailer. It's bleeding edge.

It's probably not needed in fsxNet but you could connect at another net, hub or node if you wanted/needed to do that.

I am connected at net 1, 3 and 4 for example. I forget now why I did that but that is the way things have come together.

Thanks again for keeping this great network running smoothly!

I think Avon will give a better, more complete answer but that's how I remeber it.

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On 06 Apr 2024 at 09:44p, Avon pondered and said...

Spent a few more hours tonight on getting the data to fsxnet.nz

I have created a couple of pages for NET 4 under the Stats section of the website. Hopefully when nightly utils run closer to midnight my time
these pages will also be updated.

well a bit hit and miss, seems stats posted OK to the FSX_STA echo but there was a wobble with the BinkP traffic report sending to the fsxnet.nz website. I've pulled a few leavers and had a coffee.. let's see how tonight goes.

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

Re: Re: NET 4 Stats
By: AKAcastor to Avon on Sat Apr 06 2024 11:16 am

Howdy,

Is there a difference between the nets within fsxNet?
My understanding is there's a hub for each net, and those within the net receive echomail and files from their net's hub. Are some hubs offering different connection methods? Are there other differences?

So I run Hub 3 - with something that I've created. My aim is self-service adminstration and to reduce some of the mundane activities required when running a distributed hub.

Since I've created it, I'm happy to look at different connection methods - with the core aim to preservice this hobby that we use, while taking advantage of any of today's latest technologies. If there is something that you want to try, I'm happy to take a look.

Currently implemented is IPv6 & IPv4 connectivity to BINKP, EMSI/Zmodem. You can use tor, zerotier, or TLS for any of those protocols. I'd even set up an API to get mail if there are others that would use it - and I'll probably do that when there is another clrhgouz hub...

I even started putting together a BBS frontend to clrghouz - styled on videotex (which is something that used to work on in my younger days) - but that's far from being usable...

I support all the different packet formats for bundled mail, as well as playing with new formats that help support a 5D FTN network, and/or accessing mail over low bandwidth links.


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On 07 Apr 2024 at 10:40a, Avon pondered and said...

well a bit hit and miss, seems stats posted OK to the FSX_STA echo but there was a wobble with the BinkP traffic report sending to the
fsxnet.nz website. I've pulled a few leavers and had a coffee.. let's
see how tonight goes.

More playing this afternoon, tried to pair back the Galactic Dynasty and For Honour reports into one post each vs two. Have also altered the Subject text for most stats reports posted as echomail and (hopefully) bunched them up so they post in a logical order - interbbs, net1, net4 ... time will tell, we'll see overnight what happens.

A work in progress.

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

Binkd is the main protocol used these days but ftp or
even EMSI with a modem (if you have one). Some mailers
do EMSI over telnet. Mine does but these are few and far
between. I think net 3 might have such a thing.

I am interested in testing EMSI over telnet (and over modem), I have BinkleyTerm setup but haven't actually run mail through it. One of these days I might try connecting to your system with mail if you don't mind me testing with your system.

I am connected at net 1, 3 and 4 for example. I forget
now why I did that but that is the way things have come
together.

Do you send/receive mail through multiple nets? Any trouble with dupes?

I think Avon will give a better, more complete answer
but that's how I remeber it.

Thanks for the recap of fsxNet history, it's exactly what I have been wondering about. Curious about any more details anybody else remembers and wants to fill in. :)


Chris/akacastor

--- Maximus 3.01
* Origin: Another Millennium - Canada - another.tel (21:1/162)

So I run Hub 3 - with something that I've created. My
aim is self-service adminstration and to reduce some of
the mundane activities required when running a distributed hub.

Very cool system you have built, a great project!

Currently implemented is IPv6 & IPv4 connectivity to
BINKP, EMSI/Zmodem. You can use tor, zerotier, or TLS
for any of those protocols. I'd even set up an API to
get mail if there are others that would use it - and
I'll probably do that when there is another clrhgouz hub...

Are there other systems using tor, zerotier, or TLS? Cool to have such a variety of connection options.

I even started putting together a BBS frontend to
clrghouz - styled on videotex (which is something that
used to work on in my younger days) - but that's far from being usable...

I never got to use a videotex system, as far as I recall. I read a bit about Minitel, but never used it, and I'm even less familiar with other videotex systems. Without knowing anything about it, I like the idea already. :)

I support all the different packet formats for bundled
mail, as well as playing with new formats that help
support a 5D FTN network, and/or accessing mail over low bandwidth links.

That's an awesome setup, sounds like a lot of fun to play with. I am still living in a 3D world over here! :)


Chris/akacastor

--- Maximus 3.01
* Origin: Another Millennium - Canada - another.tel (21:1/162)

Re: Re: NET 4 Stats
By: AKAcastor to Deon on Sun Apr 07 2024 03:35 pm

Howdy,

Very cool system you have built, a great project!

Thanks. I've actually enjoyed making it - if anything, I did so to pickup some different skills that I could use elsewhere...

Are there other systems using tor, zerotier, or TLS? Cool to have such a variety of connection options.

There are. TQWnet mail transfers with the main hub are over zerotier, some nodes poll and collect mail over TLS and tor.

I never got to use a videotex system, as far as I recall. I read a bit about Minitel, but never used it, and I'm even less familiar with other videotex systems. Without knowing anything about it, I like the idea already. :)

Australia's implementation of Videotex was similar to Minitel - probably more correctly similar to Prestel (the UK implementation).

While Videotex is Mode 7 graphics, 40x25, I've actually implemented "AnsiTex", the same user interface but with ANSI graphics 80x25. My current BBS (Synchronet) is using an AnsiTex shell that I've been dabling with over the years. It too is half baked (page,navigation and message reading works OK, but I need to write a frame and msg editor to make useful).


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Re: Re: NET 4 Stats
By: AKAcastor to Al on Sun Apr 07 2024 03:28 pm

Howdy,

I am interested in testing EMSI over telnet (and over modem), I have BinkleyTerm setup but haven't actually run mail through it. One of these days I might try connecting to your system with mail if you don't mind me testing with your system.

You can test with Hub 3 - just let me know and I'll enable your address to receive/send mail.

Be aware, Zmodem doesnt like uneven sides of a network pipe, and serial port buffers are smaller and empty slower than a TCP window. I wrote my Zmodem with the idea to control timings (so that it doesnt time out waiting for an ACK) and to use a smaller buffer size (so that faster side always has something to do before dying of boredom).

I need to surface this tuning items to the end user to see if it helps, but havent had anybody who needed it yet. So if you have timeout issues (and use Hub 3) let me know...


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I am interested in testing EMSI over telnet (and over modem), I have

I quit doing this years back as FD over telnet had horrible Zmodem issues sometimes. It would just resend, resend, resend. Only reason is I got away from it was the bots killing me. So I went with the Net2BBS option and wrote my own blocking bot door to load before the BBS. Plus I also didn't have 4 nodes of FD weighing down resources for no reason waiting for a call.

... Which version of the truth would you prefer today?

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I am interested in testing EMSI over telnet (and over modem), I have BinkleyTerm setup but haven't actually run mail through it.

I don't think I have ever had a session with BinkleyTerm, so that would be an interesting test.

One of these days I might try connecting to your system with mail if you don't mind me testing with your system.

By all means, test away. We should (theoretically) be able to send netmail back and forth with EMSI/Telnet as is.

If you do this, let me know your hostname and port so I can reply.

We could also setup a secure session to test echomail if you like. Let me know and we'll get it done.

I am connected at net 1, 3 and 4 for example. I forget
now why I did that but that is the way things have come
together.

Do you send/receive mail through multiple nets? Any trouble with dupes?

When net 1 (or 3 or 4) sends out a message my node will be listed in the seenbys so the other nets won't send my node the message. If net 2 or 5 send out a message to the hubs my node will not be listed in the seenbys so I will get it from net 1, 3 and 4 (at least I should) so I do get a good number of dupes. The first message gets tossed as expected and the dupes are just dropped.

If you arrange things like this you want a tosser that handles dupes properly.

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By all means, test away. We should (theoretically) be able to send netmail back and forth with EMSI/Telnet as is.

It works ... was doing this 20 years ago on telnet. Zmodem just craps out on most mailers.

... Don't worry... It's under warranty.

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There are. TQWnet mail transfers with the main hub are
over zerotier, some nodes poll and collect mail over TLS
and tor.

Very cool there's this kind of diversity of connection types for FTN mail transfer.

While Videotex is Mode 7 graphics, 40x25, I've actually
implemented "AnsiTex", the same user interface but with
ANSI graphics 80x25. My current BBS (Synchronet) is
using an AnsiTex shell that I've been dabling with over
the years. It too is half baked (page,navigation and
message reading works OK, but I need to write a frame
and msg editor to make useful).

Great project!


Chris/akacastor

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By all means, test away. We should (theoretically) be able to send netmail >> back and forth with EMSI/Telnet as is.

It works ... was doing this 20 years ago on telnet. Zmodem just craps out on most mailers.

Yep, BBBS support Zmodem but I think it prefers Hydra if it's supported by the remote mailer.

I have not been able to use EMSI/Telnet with FD or MBSE but I have has success with other mailers.

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On 07 Apr 2024 at 04:17p, Avon pondered and said...

More playing this afternoon, tried to pair back the Galactic Dynasty and For Honour reports into one post each vs two. Have also altered the Subject text for most stats reports posted as echomail and (hopefully) bunched them up so they post in a logical order - interbbs, net1, net4
... time will tell, we'll see overnight what happens.

these games reports seems to be posting OK to the stats echo along with the NET 4 stats. I can see an error in the NET 4 BinkP traffic (it's posting content twice)... also will need to separate out fileboxes further as the NET 4 data is now getting caught up in the NET 1 queue reports.. Gah.

Next steps .. tidy up the above issues, then looking to add NET 3 data to the FSX_STA echo based on what Deon is sending me each night for the website.

Also looking to start sending inter-bbs game stats info to fsxnet.nz as well.

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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On 09 Apr 2024 at 08:52a, Avon pondered and said...

these games reports seems to be posting OK to the stats echo along with the NET 4 stats. I can see an error in the NET 4 BinkP traffic (it's posting content twice)... also will need to separate out fileboxes

double posting of NET 4 BinkP traffic should be fixed in next update in FSX_STA

Next steps .. tidy up the above issues, then looking to add NET 3 data
to the FSX_STA echo based on what Deon is sending me each night for the website.

Hopefully this will also start to post to FSX_STA in the next 24 hours.

posting content twice)... also will need to separate out fileboxes
further as the NET 4 data is now getting caught up in the NET 1 queue reports.. Gah.

Not done, a pain to sort but will look to do so.

Also looking to start sending inter-bbs game stats info to fsxnet.nz as well.

Will likely aim to tackle this in the coming 24/48 hours, next cab off the rack.

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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Hello AKAcastor,

07 Apr 24 15:28, you wrote to Al:

Binkd is the main protocol used these days but ftp or
even EMSI with a modem (if you have one). Some mailers
do EMSI over telnet. Mine does but these are few and far
between. I think net 3 might have such a thing.

I am interested in testing EMSI over telnet (and over modem), I have BinkleyTerm setup but haven't actually run mail through it. One of
these days I might try connecting to your system with mail if you
don't mind me testing with your system.

you can check my xenia/2 as well on the bbs's port. bbs.roonbbs.hu:1212

I am connected at net 1, 3 and 4 for example. I forget
now why I did that but that is the way things have come
together.

Do you send/receive mail through multiple nets? Any trouble with
dupes?

afaik, the dupe checker solves it pretty good, based on msgids and seen-bys

Regards,
--
dp

telnet://bbs.roonsbbs.hu:1212 <<=-

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