• The last Icy Term...

    From Omnibrain@21:1/100 to All on Thu Oct 30 07:25:25 2025

    0.7 version is here: https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_tools/releases/tag/IcyTerm0.7.13

    I promised to re-write my icy* UI layer for a long time
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  • From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to Omnibrain on Thu Oct 30 10:57:30 2025
    Correct link:

    https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_tools/releases/tag/PreRelease0.7.99

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  • From hollowone@21:2/150 to Omnibrain on Thu Oct 30 13:40:59 2025
    0.7 version is here: https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_tools/releases/tag/IcyTerm0.7.13

    I promised to re-write my icy* UI layer for a long timey
    and the UI library of my choice still hasn't released
    the version I need - but I just used their GitHub version to re-write icy_term.


    All new UI - more polished & probably broke some things. Threw in
    new features/UX. Complete new shaders using WGPU instead of OpenGL -> supports more systems.

    When the libraries I need are released I'll switch to 0.8.0 on the new base.

    Still have more polising/testing to do but want to give some life signs :).

    Great stuff! thanks for keeping this project alive and improving.
    For a long moment I thought you're only focused on your pc board server software only.

    -h1

    ... -=Lordz of BooM are back=-

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  • From deon@21:2/116 to Omnibrain on Fri Oct 31 08:20:19 2025
    Re: The last Icy Term...
    By: Omnibrain to All on Thu Oct 30 2025 07:25 am

    Howdy,

    0.7 version is here: https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_tools/releases/tag/IcyTerm0.7.13

    I promised to re-write my icy* UI layer for a long time
    SEEN-BY: 1/100 2/100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 114 115

    For me this is a garbled message, no origin line and seen-by lines showing.

    How did you author it?

    This is doesnt appear to be a golded example of a bad mail...


    ...лоеп
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    * Origin: I'm playing with ANSI+videotex - wanna play too? (21:2/116)
  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Omnibrain on Thu Oct 30 15:19:00 2025


    0.7 version is here: https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_tools/releases/tag/IcyTerm0.7.13

    I promised to re-write my icy* UI layer for a long time

    Using it! Couldn't get ssh to connect. Telnet is working fine. If I type
    too fast, characters are skipped. There appears to be no clipboard. I
    haven't tested file transfers yet.

    --
    Shurato, Sysop Shurato's Heavenly Sphere (ssh, telnet, pop3, ftp,nntp,
    ,wss) (Ports 22,23,110,21,119,999)


    *** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
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  • From Al@21:4/106 to deon on Thu Oct 30 15:26:30 2025
    0.7 version is here:
    https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_tools/releases/tag/IcyTerm0.7.13

    I promised to re-write my icy* UI layer for a long time
    SEEN-BY: 1/100 2/100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 114 115

    For me this is a garbled message, no origin line and seen-by lines showing.

    This seems to happen with Mystic just once in a while.

    I don't know the cause.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-7
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From Accession@21:1/200 to Al on Thu Oct 30 17:34:14 2025
    Hey Al!

    On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 15:26:30 -0700, you wrote:

    0.7 version is here:
    https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_tools/releases/tag/IcyTerm0.7.13

    I promised to re-write my icy* UI layer for a long time
    SEEN-BY: 1/100 2/100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112
    114 115

    For me this is a garbled message, no origin line and seen-by lines
    showing.

    This seems to happen with Mystic just once in a while.

    I don't know the cause.

    I wonder if he tried to edit the message after saving, and before it was sent out. If that is indeed the case, the 'edit' feature isn't retaining echomail properly.

    I want to say I've seen this before (maybe once or twice), but I could be way off, too. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... Sarcasm: because beating people up is illegal.
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  • From deon@21:2/116 to Accession on Fri Oct 31 09:55:45 2025
    Re: The last Icy Term...
    By: Accession to Al on Thu Oct 30 2025 05:34 pm

    Howdy,

    This seems to happen with Mystic just once in a while.

    I don't know the cause.

    I wonder if he tried to edit the message after saving, and before it was sent out. If that is indeed the case, the 'edit' feature isn't retaining echomail properly.

    I want to say I've seen this before (maybe once or twice), but I could be way off, too. ;)

    Would love to get to the bottom of this one.

    I see it often, and while it bugs me, the bigger thing I want to fix is that the message wont go through clrghouz, so if I can programmatically identify it, I can let the sender know to try again.

    I think I can only trust the msgid as the true sender it seems...


    ...лоеп
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  • From Dreamweaver@21:1/144 to Omnibrain on Thu Oct 30 11:14:26 2025
    0.7 version is here: https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_tools/releases/tag/IcyTerm0.7.13

    I promised to re-write my icy* UI layer for a long time

    Does it work with Win 32bit?

    ... Yeah, but what's the speed of darkness...

    --- Renegade v1.35/DOS
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (21:1/144)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Omnibrain on Thu Oct 30 18:26:15 2025
    0.7 version is here: https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_tools/releases/tag/IcyTerm0.7.13

    I promised to re-write my icy* UI layer for a long timey
    and the UI library of my choice still hasn't released
    the version I need - but I just used their GitHub version to re-write icy_term.

    All new UI - more polished & probably broke some things. Threw in
    new features/UX. Complete new shaders using WGPU instead of OpenGL -> supports more systems.

    Thanks - I'll get it installed and beta test it for a bit on macOS! Great work, and thanks as always, Omnibrain!!



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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Omnibrain on Thu Oct 30 18:31:33 2025
    0.7 version is here: https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_tools/releases/tag/IcyTerm0.7.13

    w0w; I'll say that 1st impressions - I love the new look/feel! I also think the community needs to rally and get an icy_term (or icy_tools) professional ANSi commissioned - mind if I help with that???

    I'll put in a request and see if I can't get someone on it??



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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to paulie420 on Thu Oct 30 20:03:00 2025

    0.7 version is here: https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_tools/releases/tag/IcyTerm0.7.13

    w0w; I'll say that 1st impressions - I love the new look/feel! I also think the community needs to rally and get an icy_term (or icy_tools) professional ANSi commissioned - mind if I help with that???

    I'll put in a request and see if I can't get someone on it??

    If you can't, I feel invested enough in Mike's work that I'd be willing to
    pay ZeusII to do one!

    --
    Shurato, Sysop Shurato's Heavenly Sphere (ssh, telnet, pop3, ftp,nntp,
    ,wss) (Ports 22,23,110,21,119,999)


    *** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
    ---
    * Origin: Shurato's Heavenly Sphere telnet://shsbbs.net (21:2/148)
  • From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to hollowone on Thu Oct 30 22:56:41 2025
    Great stuff! thanks for keeping this project alive and improving.
    For a long moment I thought you're only focused on your pc board server software only.

    This is true, but I saw that an iced release is on it's way. However I thought that they're releasing this month.

    I wanted to have icy_board ready this halloween - maybe next year :). However I need feedback for ib.

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  • From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to Shurato on Thu Oct 30 22:59:28 2025

    Using it! Couldn't get ssh to connect. Telnet is working fine. If I type too fast, characters are skipped. There appears to be no
    clipboard. I haven't tested file transfers yet.

    SSH works for me - y characters are a problem - see it while typing. Will look into it. Clipboard should work but there seems to be a bug in the library I use. Don't test transfer - I've already fixed some issues.

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  • From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to paulie420 on Thu Oct 30 23:02:22 2025
    w0w; I'll say that 1st impressions - I love the new look/feel! I also think the community needs to rally and get an icy_term (or icy_tools) professional ANSi commissioned - mind if I help with that???

    y but there is still a lot to do - it's basically a rewrite. But I thought giving some life signs is worth it. I can need any help :). When the new base works I'll update the other tools too.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2024/05/29 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)
  • From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to deon on Thu Oct 30 23:04:43 2025
    For me this is a garbled message, no origin line and seen-by lines showing.

    Just with the 20fob message editor.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2024/05/29 (Linux/64)
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  • From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to Dreamweaver on Thu Oct 30 23:05:56 2025
    Does it work with Win 32bit?


    I don't know - someone needs to test/compile.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2024/05/29 (Linux/64)
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  • From deon@21:2/116 to Omnibrain on Fri Oct 31 17:09:15 2025
    Re: Re: The last Icy Term...
    By: Omnibrain to deon on Thu Oct 30 2025 11:04 pm

    Howdy,

    Just with the 20fob message editor.

    What's that? An external editor?


    ...лоеп
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  • From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to Shurato on Thu Oct 30 23:39:30 2025

    I'll put in a request and see if I can't get someone on it??

    If you can't, I feel invested enough in Mike's work that I'd be willing
    to pay ZeusII to do one!

    Not needed to - it's just a hobby :) - yeah found the keyboard issue. Typing is now working.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2024/05/29 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)
  • From Al@21:4/106 to Accession on Fri Oct 31 00:21:26 2025
    This seems to happen with Mystic just once in a while.

    I don't know the cause.

    I wonder if he tried to edit the message after saving, and before it was sent out. If that is indeed the case, the 'edit' feature isn't retaining echomail properly.

    If it happened more regularly it would be easier to say, but it's rare.

    I want to say I've seen this before (maybe once or twice), but I could be way off, too. ;)

    I was having a convo with someone and more than one of his replies seem to end mid thought. No tear or origin line.

    It'd be great if we could find a cause and pass the info on to g00r00 once he returns.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-7
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to deon on Fri Oct 31 05:05:26 2025
    What's that? An external editor?

    No it's the one of the bbs - mystic standard one I suppose.

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  • From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to Shurato on Fri Oct 31 05:10:28 2025
    Using it! Couldn't get ssh to connect. Telnet is working fine.

    Just tested ssh - seems to work - could connect to your bbs :). But may be that my version is more recent hard to tell. I gave SSH a quick test before the 0.7.99 release.

    I hope that 0.8.0 will be ready before x-mas. As well as icyview - I can't promise to get icy draw ported over.

    Just wanted to have something shown what I currently work at :).

    Nice that you supported IEMSI - could test/fix/improve it with your system.

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  • From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to paulie420 on Fri Oct 31 10:36:12 2025
    w0w; I'll say that 1st impressions - I love the new look/feel! I also think the community needs to rally and get an icy_term (or icy_tools) professional ANSi commissioned - mind if I help with that???


    I can ask grymmjack - maybe he has interest in helping out.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2024/05/29 (Linux/64)
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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Shurato on Fri Oct 31 17:40:13 2025
    w0w; I'll say that 1st impressions - I love the new look/feel! I also think the community needs to rally and get an icy_term (or icy_tools) professional ANSi commissioned - mind if I help with that???

    If you can't, I feel invested enough in Mike's work that I'd be willing
    to pay ZeusII to do one!

    ZII does great 80x25 screens, too... hmmm.



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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Omnibrain on Fri Oct 31 17:42:29 2025
    w0w; I'll say that 1st impressions - I love the new look/feel! I also think the community needs to rally and get an icy_term (or icy_tools) professional ANSi commissioned - mind if I help with that???

    y but there is still a lot to do - it's basically a rewrite. But I
    thought giving some life signs is worth it. I can need any help :). When the new base works I'll update the other tools too.

    Kk.

    I have a [small!] list of things I notice about the new release that I'm gonna keep up-to-date as I use it. First notes;

    It needs to scale when I drag the window larger - or, am I missing some way to enlarge the actual [ANSi] screen???

    When Mystic BBSes have those carosel text animations on a menu, keyboard presses aren't always recognized... on 2oFBs Main Menu, for example, its VERY hard to get "/?" [or /anything] entered...

    Love the rewrite - and you know I write down every little thing, but only trying to help!



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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Omnibrain on Fri Oct 31 17:43:50 2025
    w0w; I'll say that 1st impressions - I love the new look/feel! I also think the community needs to rally and get an icy_term (or icy_tools) professional ANSi commissioned - mind if I help with that???

    I can ask grymmjack - maybe he has interest in helping out.

    Kk - no worries. Shurato also said he'd be willing to hire ZeusII; either way, we're here if you need any help!

    I can also write documentation - but dunno if thats needed!



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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Omnibrain on Fri Oct 31 20:26:00 2025

    Using it! Couldn't get ssh to connect. Telnet is working fine.

    Just tested ssh - seems to work - could connect to your bbs :). But may be that my version is more recent hard to tell. I gave SSH a quick test before the 0.7.99 release.

    Yeah, it was my fault. I hadn't set up a new firewall rule after setting up the malwarebyts plug-in for the windows firewall with outbound rules
    mandatory for traffic.

    --
    Shurato, Sysop Shurato's Heavenly Sphere (ssh, telnet, pop3, ftp,nntp,
    ,wss) (Ports 22,23,110,21,119,999)


    *** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
    ---
    * Origin: Shurato's Heavenly Sphere telnet://shsbbs.net (21:2/148)
  • From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to paulie420 on Fri Oct 31 20:36:28 2025

    It needs to scale when I drag the window larger - or, am I missing some way to enlarge the actual [ANSi] screen???

    y it should. Try to make the window larger. I added an option for scaling - I've integer scaling now you can opt out of it. Having integer scaling scales 2x, 3x, 4x etc. that gives better results but leaves space.

    When Mystic BBSes have those carosel text animations on a menu, keyboard presses aren't always recognized... on 2oFBs Main Menu, for example, its VERY hard to get "/?" [or /anything] entered...

    already fixed.

    Love the rewrite - and you know I write down every little thing, but only trying to help!

    y ty - it's not finished that's why I gave it a strange version number. Just a dev. pre release for halloween :). It's blocked by upstream libs atm.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2024/05/29 (Linux/64)
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  • From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to paulie420 on Fri Oct 31 20:43:47 2025
    I can also write documentation - but dunno if thats needed!


    This is a good question. I try to make an intuitive easy to use UI. But as a dev you've an other perspective to things.

    I like that ppl are using it :). I would like to work more on my bbs things but it's always competing with other spare time activities :/. So giving input surely helps. Now that I've made the WGPU switch for the ansi rendering I hope to give the ansi tools a bit more attention.

    Next thing to update is icy view. I take the opportunity to bring the baud emulation to that - rewrote it yesterday for icy term to feel more like a modem. If you've more ideas for the viewer let me know.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2024/05/29 (Linux/64)
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