Re: RemoteAccess
By: Nightfox to Charles Blackburn on Mon Sep 26 2022 01:52 pm

Re: DOS BBS software as a door and ANSI detection on Linux
By: Charles Blackburn to Nightfox on Mon Sep 26 2022 02:23 pm

is there a way to force it to use a certain terminal type (in this case ANSI) ??

I was wondering that. I was looking at the RA documentation (RA.DOC), which has a section for RA.EXE command-line parameters, but I didn't see such a parameter. Also, I was looking in Synchronet's documentation for running doors, and it looked like there was no parameter to specify whether the user has ANSI or not. I think Synchronet expects doors to detect user's ANSI capabilities.

Normally a door either drum the terminal capabilities from a drop file (preferred) or dynamically detect them.

RemoteAccess normally detects ANSI when a user connects though (including when another program passes a modem connection to it), so I know RA has that capability.

Does RA have a command-line option to specify ANSI support?
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Re: RemoteAccess
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Oct 30 2022 02:56 pm

RemoteAccess normally detects ANSI when a user connects though
(including when another program passes a modem connection to it), so I
know RA has that capability.

Does RA have a command-line option to specify ANSI support?

I had checked its documentation for that and didn't see one.

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Re: RemoteAccess
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Mon Oct 31 2022 10:31 am

Re: RemoteAccess
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Oct 30 2022 02:56 pm

RemoteAccess normally detects ANSI when a user connects though
(including when another program passes a modem connection to it), so I
know RA has that capability.

Does RA have a command-line option to specify ANSI support?

I had checked its documentation for that and didn't see one.

In that case, if Synchronet did have a command-line specifier to indicate what terminal type (e.g. ANSI or not), I don't think you'd have a way to use it to force RA into ANSI mode.
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Re: RemoteAccess
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Tue Nov 01 2022 04:53 pm

Does RA have a command-line option to specify ANSI support?

I had checked its documentation for that and didn't see one.

In that case, if Synchronet did have a command-line specifier to indicate what terminal type (e.g. ANSI or not), I don't think you'd have a way to use it to force RA into ANSI mode.

I came to that conclusion as well.

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Re: DOS BBS software as a door and ANSI detection on Linux
By: Charles Blackburn to Nightfox on Mon Sep 26 2022 02:23 pm

is there a way to force it to use a certain terminal type (in this case ANSI) ??

I was wondering that. I was looking at the RA documentation (RA.DOC), which has a section for RA.EXE command-line parameters, but I didn't see such a parameter. Also, I was looking in Synchronet's documentation for running doors, and it looked like there was no parameter to specify whether the user has ANSI or not. I think Synchronet expects doors to detect user's ANSI capabilities.

RemoteAccess normally detects ANSI when a user connects though (including when another program passes a modem connection to it), so I know RA has that capability.

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Re: RemoteAccess
By: Nightfox to Charles Blackburn on Mon Sep 26 2022 13:52:16

Re: DOS BBS software as a door and ANSI detection on Linux
By: Charles Blackburn to Nightfox on Mon Sep 26 2022 02:23 pm

is there a way to force it to use a certain terminal type (in this case ANSI) ??

I was wondering that. I was looking at the RA documentation (RA.DOC), which has a section for RA.EXE command-line
parameters, but I didn't see such a parameter. Also, I was looking in Synchronet's documentation for running doors, and it
looked like there was no parameter to specify whether the user has ANSI or not. I think Synchronet expects doors to detect
user's ANSI capabilities.

yea i didnt see that either, that said i know when you dial in via "sexpots" it uses that as the terminal type and that's something i've had to change for synchronet to run ansi. otherwise it's just "dumb" lol not sure, but i just changed the terminal type.

I don't know how synchronet detects ansi initial connect (to the login prompt) as i haven't dug into it, but when connecting via a dumb terminal i didnt see any ansi codes present until the logon/answer.ans image showed.

RemoteAccess normally detects ANSI when a user connects though (including when another program passes a modem connection to
it), so I know RA has that capability.

correct, but i'm wondering if there's something thats stopping that going through. that was why i suggested try it in local mode.

when i get some time i'll dig through the RA docs...

as an aside. have you tried something like pcboard or any of the other bbs software systems, just to see if it's a fluke?

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Re: RemoteAccess
By: Charles Blackburn to Nightfox on Mon Sep 26 2022 07:25 pm

correct, but i'm wondering if there's something thats stopping that going through. that was why i suggested try it in local mode.

Yeah, I should try that. It might just work.

as an aside. have you tried something like pcboard or any of the other bbs software systems, just to see if it's a fluke?

I haven't, but I'm not really interested whether other BBS programs will work. I just thought it would be fun to get my old BBS running as a door. :)

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Re: RemoteAccess
By: Charles Blackburn to Nightfox on Mon Sep 26 2022 07:25 pm

through. that was why i suggested try it in local mode.

Running it in local mode indeed displays ANSI when running as a door. I'll probably use that setup for now. :)

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Re: RemoteAccess
By: Nightfox to Charles Blackburn on Mon Sep 26 2022 18:04:53

Re: RemoteAccess
By: Charles Blackburn to Nightfox on Mon Sep 26 2022 07:25 pm

correct, but i'm wondering if there's something thats stopping that going through. that was why i suggested try it in
local mode.

Yeah, I should try that. It might just work.

just a thought :D

as an aside. have you tried something like pcboard or any of the other bbs software systems, just to see if it's a
fluke?

I haven't, but I'm not really interested whether other BBS programs will work. I just thought it would be fun to get my old
BBS running as a door. :)

i realise that, i was more talking about as an experiment as to whether they correctly identify ansi etc. if they don't then MAYBE you found an undocumented feature :D if they do, then maybe it's an RA quirk?

the other thing you can try (assuming you have installed "dosutils" into sbbs) is try running the ansi.com driver in your batch file.

another thing would maybe spin up a DOS vm somewhere and remote telnet to that in a similar way that irc/mrc works?

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Re: RemoteAccess
By: Charles Blackburn to Nightfox on Tue Sep 27 2022 10:59 am

the other thing you can try (assuming you have installed "dosutils" into sbbs) is try running the ansi.com driver in your batch file.

I'd tried that, but that didn't help.

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