I've been noticing with Slyedit for sometime now, when you go to quote, it doesn't allow you to quote till the end of the message, it seems to get stuck at the end of the visable page, and repeat the same line over and over again. Is this a bug, or a buffer problem on my system. Not a big deal, as I can copy and paste the original message, but I thought I'd throw it out there in case you know of a fix.
Re: Slyedit
By: DesotoFireflite to Nightfox on Fri Jan 28 2022 02:11 pm
I've been noticing with Slyedit for sometime now, when you go to
quote, it doesn't allow you to quote till the end of the message, it
seems to get stuck at the end of the visable page, and repeat the
same line over and over again. Is this a bug, or a buffer problem on
my system. Not a big deal, as I can copy and paste the original
message, but I thought I'd throw it out there in case you know of a
fix.
I'm not sure what you mean? I'm able to quote to the end of the message. I haven't seen this behavior you're describing.
I'm not sure what you mean? I'm able to quote to the end of the message. I I'm not sure what you mean? I'm able to quote to the end of the message. I I'm not sure what you mean? I'm able to quote to the end of the message. I I'm not sure what you mean? I'm able to quote to the end of the message. I I'm not sure what you mean? I'm able to quote to the end of the message. I
haven't seen this behavior you're describing
If it's a long message, I'm not able to quote to the end. On your message for example, if it were just a few lines longer, I would not be able to quote it all, nor see it all in the quote window. It would get to a certain point, then everytime I hit enter, it just repeats the last line I can see in the quote window like this
One line for every time I hit enter, and I would have never seen
haven't seen this behavior you're describing
In the quote window. Hope this helps to explain further.
If it's a long message, I'm not able to quote to the end. On your message for example, if it were just a few lines longer, I would not be able to quote it all, nor see it all in the quote window. It would get to a
certain point, then everytime I hit enter, it just repeats the last line I can see in the quote window like this
Re: Slyedit
By: DesotoFireflite to Nightfox on Fri Jan 28 2022 04:29 pm
If it's a long message, I'm not able to quote to the end. On your
message for example, if it were just a few lines longer, I would not
be able to quote it all, nor see it all in the quote window. It
would get to a
I logged onto your BBS and tried quoting a long message. I may have been able to reproduce it with one message, but when I tried it again, I was able to quote the whole message.
I'm wondering if your JavaScript memory settings may have something to do with this. In sbbs.ini, in the [Global] section, there is a memory setting called JavaScriptMaxBytes. I suppose one thing you could do is to increase that and see if it lets you quote more of a message. Currently, mine is set to 16M (16 megabytes).
certain point, then everytime I hit enter, it just repeats the last
line I can see in the quote window like this
That's normal. Once you get to the last line of the message in the quote window, it will stop scrolling there, so if you press enter again, it will insert that line again.
Nightfox
I'm wondering if your JavaScript memory settings may have something to do with this. In sbbs.ini, in the [Global] section, there is a memory setting
called JavaScriptMaxBytes.
On 2022 Jan 28 19:05:08, you wrote to DesotoFireflite:
I'm wondering if your JavaScript memory settings may have something to do with this. In sbbs.ini, in the [Global] section, there is a memory setting
called JavaScriptMaxBytes.
this is also set in ctrl/jsexec.ini so it is read from two different places... both should be set to the same values, really...
i think the plan is to prefer jsexec.ini over the global section of sbbs.ini and to later deprecate and eventually remove the options from sbbs.ini... i could be wrong about that, though...
i do know that jsexec.ini is realtively new in the last roughly 3 years... i remember creating it on sestar when i read discussion about it on IRC i think...
this is also set in ctrl/jsexec.ini so it is read from two different places... both should be set to the same values, really...
i think the plan is to prefer jsexec.ini over the global section of
sbbs.ini
and to later deprecate and eventually remove the options from sbbs.ini... i could be wrong about that, though...
i do know that jsexec.ini is realtively new in the last roughly 3
years... i
remember creating it on sestar when i read discussion about it on IRC i think...
I'm wondering if your JavaScript memory settings may have something
to do with this. In sbbs.ini, in the [Global] section, there is a
memory setting called JavaScriptMaxBytes.
this is also set in ctrl/jsexec.ini so it is read from two different places... both should be set to the same values, really...
i think the plan is to prefer jsexec.ini over the global section of sbbs.ini and to later deprecate and eventually remove the options from sbbs.ini... i could be wrong about that, though...
If it's a long message, I'm not able to quote to the end. On your
message for example, if it were just a few lines longer, I would not
be able to quote it all, nor see it all in the quote window. It
would get to a
I logged onto your BBS and tried quoting a long message. I may have been able to reproduce it with one message, but when I tried it again, I was able to quote the whole message.
I participate in an active local message area, and this has bugged me ever since my favorite BBS upgraded to Synchronet 3.19 at the beginning of the year.
If it's a long message, I'm not able to quote to the end. On your
message for example, if it were just a few lines longer, I would
not be able to quote it all, nor see it all in the quote window. It
would get to a
I know this is an old topic, but the problem was stated as simply "long message"... but it's a specific case of a long message. It's when the final paragraph is longer than 2 lines of 80 column text. The final paragraph gets cut to two lines in the lightbar quote box.
It doesn't get noticed because most people post in networked areas... so the last paragraph is the BBS network tag that is usually 2 lines, and even if longer, almost never gets quoted.
I participate in an active local message area, and this has bugged me ever since my favorite BBS upgraded to Synchronet 3.19 at the beginning of the year.
I know this is an old topic, but the problem was stated as simply "long message"... but it's a specific case of a long message. It's when the final paragraph is longer than 2 lines of 80 column text. The final paragraph gets cut to two lines in the lightbar quote box.
I participate in an active local message area, and this has bugged me
ever since my favorite BBS upgraded to Synchronet 3.19 at the
beginning of the year.
Is this particular to a specific message editor?
Re: Slyedit
By: ErikaX86 to Nightfox on Mon Dec 12 2022 12:30 pm
I know this is an old topic, but the problem was stated as simply "long message"... but it's a specific case of a long message. It's when the final paragraph is longer than 2 lines of 80 column text. The final paragraph gets cut to two lines in the lightbar quote box.
I've looked into this a bit in SlyEdit, and I can make a change to how it reads quote lines. It seems some of the lines in the quote file can be wider than the user's terminal, and that may result in some lines being cut off when quoting.
Re: Slyedit
By: Digital Man to ErikaX86 on Mon Dec 12 2022 06:29 pm
I participate in an active local message area, and this has bugged me
ever since my favorite BBS upgraded to Synchronet 3.19 at the
beginning of the year.
Is this particular to a specific message editor?
There actually seems to be room for improvement in SlyEdit's handling of quote lines. When the quote.txt file is written, some of the lines can be longer than the user's terminal width (at least that seems to be the case when using my message reader), and when quoting those lines, some of them are cut off due to their length. I looked into the quote line reading in SlyEdit a bit, and I think I can use word_wrap() to wrap the quote lines to ensure they fit into the user's terminal so they're all available for quoting.
I've looked into this a bit in SlyEdit, and I can make a change to how
it reads quote lines. It seems some of the lines in the quote file
can be wider than the user's terminal, and that may result in some
There's a configuration option in SCFG to control that (for each external editor): "Word-wrap Quoted Text". Is that enabled?
Re: Slyedit
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Tue Dec 13 2022 04:22 pm
I've looked into this a bit in SlyEdit, and I can make a change to how
it reads quote lines. It seems some of the lines in the quote file
can be wider than the user's terminal, and that may result in some
There's a configuration option in SCFG to control that (for each external editor): "Word-wrap Quoted Text". Is that enabled?
Yes, I have it set to "Yes, for terminal width".
I've been using my message reader though, and now that I think about it, my message reader doesn't check for that option when writing QUOTES.TXT I'll have to look into where I can check that. I imagine I can check xtrn_area.editor[user.editor].settings for that?
Is this particular to a specific message editor?
Re: Slyedit
By: Digital Man to ErikaX86 on Mon Dec 12 2022 06:29 pm
Is this particular to a specific message editor?
I just tested a few different editors on this BBS and on Nightfox's, and similar behavior happens in others. With further testing, it also doesn't seem to be a 100% thing that a final long paragraph will always be truncated in the quote window... but that seems to be the easiest way to make it happen in SlyEdit and FSedit.
Sorry I didn't have more understanding of other editors when I first posted... I was just reading old messages on a whim and got excited when I saw the original poster describing this issue I've been noticing. I think I'd always assumed it was just SlyEdit, but there seems to be oddities with other editors too.
QUOTES.TXT I'll have to look into where I can check that. I imagine
I can check xtrn_area.editor[user.editor].settings for that?
Yes, the XTRN_QUOTEWRAP bit-flag.
Is this particular to a specific message editor?
I just tested a few different editors on this BBS and on Nightfox's, and similar behavior happens in others. With further testing, it also doesn't seem to be a 100% thing that a final long paragraph will always be truncated in the quote window... but that seems to be the easiest way to make it happen in SlyEdit and FSedit.
Re: Slyedit
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Tue Dec 13 2022 08:19 pm
QUOTES.TXT I'll have to look into where I can check that. I imagine
I can check xtrn_area.editor[user.editor].settings for that?
Yes, the XTRN_QUOTEWRAP bit-flag.
There's also an option for the number of columns to wrap to (a number, or the user's terminal width). Is there a way to check for that value in JS?
QUOTES.TXT I'll have to look into where I can check that. I
imagine I can check xtrn_area.editor[user.editor].settings for
that?
Yes, the XTRN_QUOTEWRAP bit-flag.
There's also an option for the number of columns to wrap to (a number,
or the user's terminal width). Is there a way to check for that value
in JS?
Not easily: that setting isn't directly modeled). However, you could use the cnflib.js to load xtrn.cnf and find that setting, or wait until v3.20a, where that setting is (much) easier to parse from xtrn.ini (converted form the old xtrn.cnf), OR just assume it's 0 (wrap to user's terminal width). That's likely the most common setting anyway.
I just tested a few different editors on this BBS and on Nightfox's, and similar behavior happens in others. With further testing, it also doesn't seem to be a 100% thing that a final long paragraph will always be truncated in the quote window... but that seems to be the easiest way to make it happen in SlyEdit and FSedit.
I've been using my message reader though, and now that I think about it, my message reader doesn't check for that option when writing QUOTES.TXT I'll have to look into where I can check that. I imagine I can check xtrn_area.editor[user.editor].settings for that?
Thanks to both you and digital man for taking up the thread. I was starting to wonder if I had gone too "high up the chain" bringing it up to you developers... like it was just something that Sysops needed to deal with. I'm happy it looks like I actually helped.
Thanks again for looking into it!
It sounds like you might be using a 3rd party (Nightfox's) message reader which is doing the message quoting for you. Try this same thing on a diffe
Re: Slyedit
By: Digital Man to ErikaX86 on Tue Dec 13 2022 09:35 pm
It sounds like you might be using a 3rd party (Nightfox's) message reader which is doing the message quoting for you. Try this same thing on a diffe
I'm posting this from Vertrauen, and the above is the last two lines available in SlyEdit... however, all lines were available to "list" when using no external editor. FSEditor on Vert also picked up the final lines.
Many other messages with long concluding paragraphs DID work fine with SlyEdit on Vert, though... in fact, I tried about a dozen before coming back to this message to tell you I couldn't reproduce it on Vert. But this one did produce the behavior.
How ironic that it was the very message where I was going to say that I couldn't reproduce it here.
I've been using my message reader though, and now that I think about
it, my message reader doesn't check for that option when writing
QUOTES.TXT I'll have to look into where I can check that. I imagine
I can check xtrn_area.editor[user.editor].settings for that?
Thanks to both you and digital man for taking up the thread. I was starting to wonder if I had gone too "high up the chain" bringing it up to you developers... like it was just something that Sysops needed to deal with. I'm happy it looks like I actually helped.
Thanks again for looking into it!
I have SlyEdit configured here on Vertrauen in SCFG with "Word-wrap Quoted Text" set to "No". Perhaps that needs to changes to "Yes".
Thanks for bringing it up again. Somehow it was something I had rarely seen, but now that I was able to see it happening, I was able to make a fix.
Thanks for bringing it up again. Somehow it was something I had
rarely seen, but now that I was able to see it happening, I was able
to make a fix.
Thank you so very much! The bbs I'm on most installed the updates and the quote window problem is gone. Sorry it took so long to thank you (and you too digital man)... I was home for the holidays and bbs'ing is just something I seem to do regularly when I'm at my desktop. Never got into it on my tablet or other device.
(and you too digital man)... I was home for the holidays and bbs'ing is just something I seem to do regularly when I'm at my desktop. Never got into it on my tablet or other device.
Good to hear the problem is fixed. :)
oh i do have a feature request.
could you allow a user to turn it off if they choose? i'm a power user and i don't like to have it turned on in some cases. it would be good if a user's pref could be saved in a data file.
also since you make so many updates maybe an auto-update feature?
Re: Slyedit
By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Jan 04 2023 06:06 am
oh i do have a feature request.
could you allow a user to turn it off if they choose? i'm a power user and i don't like to have it turned on in some cases. it would be good if a user's pref could be saved in a data file.
Turn what off?
I don't think my updates are that frequent (especially for SlyEdit). I'm not sure the best way I'd make an auto-update feature for my mods..
the msg viewer. i'd like to toggle it off sometimes.
Re: Slyedit
By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Jan 04 2023 06:29 pm
the msg viewer. i'd like to toggle it off sometimes.
So, being able to let the user revert to the stock reader when desired?
I think that could be doable, though perhaps a little weird. I could put a user option in DDMsgReader to turn it off so the BBS would use the stock reader, but then once the user is using the stock reader, the user would have no way to re-enable DDMsgReader unless there's a separate script to do so and the sysop adds an option to the menu for the user to do so.
cant you just set a user flag, have it look for it when loading, and if the user wants it on, they get it. if they dont, it's off
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