• Self serve checkout

    From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Tue Dec 19 11:09:00 2023
    I haven't seen anybody have to type in a barcode manually for like 25 years, i'
    not even sure if it's possible anymore with the register software they use.
    they just choose a generic item usually.

    I've seen them do it. It has to be done by the person watching the
    self-check area (or another cashier) as they have to go into some screens
    that the customer won't have access to. They usually have to scan their
    badge to get those screens to come up.

    I have not seen it often, but they can do it.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Tue Dec 19 11:08:00 2023
    This place had guys wearing coveralls with their names on them, they
    would check your tires, your oil, top off your radiator and washer
    fluid, and wash *all* of your windows with towels and a spray bottle
    instead of a squeegee. We'd go there before taking a girl out on a
    date...

    In my area, most of that had faded out by the time I was old enough to
    drive. When I was younger, and a passenger in my parent's cars (1970's and early 80's) I can still remember that the "name brand" places like Chevron, Exxon, etc., still did that. The convenience stores had not yet put those places out of business.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Tue Dec 19 11:08:00 2023
    at you strangely when you asked for a bag. They'd sort of pull off one
    of those thin plastic bags that most US states have banned, and have
    you bag away.


    US states banned plastic bags at grocery stores? that's news to me.

    Kentucky has not for sure. OTOH, in California and Arizona this Summer, I
    had to pay extra for a plastic bag. I just didn't get a bag at all in AZ
    but, in CA I had too many things not to.

    They sell them as "reusable" bags, and they are a little bigger and thicker than the usual ones, but they are no where near as sturdy as the optional reusable bags you can buy upon checkout here.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Tue Dec 19 11:08:00 2023
    at the machines i use the machine takes a photo and they review it.
    they dont give you a shakedown.

    Here, I know the Walmart takes video as there are times they show you
    yourself on the screen. If Kroger does, they don't let you know and there
    is no one between you and the door as you leave.

    IMHO, the areas where the shakedown specialists are in use are the areas where they have a lot of problems with shoplifters -- likely in cities or states where they have quit prosecuting them.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Tue Dec 19 23:43:53 2023
    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Dec 19 2023 11:09 am

    I haven't seen anybody have to type in a barcode manually for like 25 years, i'
    not even sure if it's possible anymore with the register software they use.
    they just choose a generic item usually.

    I've seen them do it. It has to be done by the person watching the self-check area (or another cashier) as they have to go into some screens that the customer won't have access to. They usually have to scan their badge to get those screens to come up.

    I have not seen it often, but they can do it.


    do you go to kroger stores? i normally just go to kroger and walmart.
    i don't buy anything weird so i don't really have scan problems.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Tue Dec 19 23:47:11 2023
    Re: Full-service gas
    By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Tue Dec 19 2023 11:08 am

    This place had guys wearing coveralls with their names on them, they
    would check your tires, your oil, top off your radiator and washer
    fluid, and wash *all* of your windows with towels and a spray bottle
    instead of a squeegee. We'd go there before taking a girl out on a
    date...

    In my area, most of that had faded out by the time I was old enough to drive. When I was younger, and a passenger in my parent's cars (1970's and early 80's) I can still remember that the "name brand" places like Chevron, Exxon, etc., still did that. The convenience stores had not yet put those places out of business.



    the place i mentioned where it had a pump where you HAD to get service and you paid for eventually ended up selling because they weren't making decent money.
    they also would close down everything including the pumps at 8pm. they had a garage that did all repairs but they focused on mostly doing emissions testing which makes pennies.

    what i'm getting at is doing pumping service, etc is part of an old mindset that no longer works. i'll pump my gas, walk into kwiktrip while it's filling and be out. no issue for me.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Tue Dec 19 23:48:21 2023
    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Dec 19 2023 11:08 am

    Kentucky has not for sure. OTOH, in California and Arizona this Summer, I had to pay extra for a plastic bag. I just didn't get a bag at all in AZ but, in CA I had too many things not to.

    They sell them as "reusable" bags, and they are a little bigger and thicker than the usual ones, but they are no where near as sturdy as the optional reusable bags you can buy upon checkout here.


    it just sounds like another scam that does nothing for the environment
    and makes more money for someone. like i said those regular bags disintegrate. even when packed in tight. i've seen it with my own eyes.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Tue Dec 19 23:50:21 2023
    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Dec 19 2023 11:08 am

    at the machines i use the machine takes a photo and they review it.
    they dont give you a shakedown.

    Here, I know the Walmart takes video as there are times they show you yourself on the screen. If Kroger does, they don't let you know and there is no one between you and the door as you leave.

    IMHO, the areas where the shakedown specialists are in use are the areas where they have a lot of problems with shoplifters -- likely in cities or states where they have quit prosecuting them.



    it gets me because i'm tall and i'll crack open my wallet and get my shoppers card out.
    the camera thinks i'm fake scanning an item from the time i crack the wallet to when i scan then card. it's stupid. i guess it works though.

    what really works is a watchful eye. i saw a dude scan a case of beer and when it tells him to wait for id he just walks out like he bought it. this old broad went after him and dude had to walk back.
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  • From Vela025@VERT/AMSTRAD to Dumas Walker on Wed Dec 20 08:59:17 2023
    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Dec 19 2023 11:09 am

    I haven't seen anybody have to type in a barcode manually for like 25
    I've seen them do it. It has to be done by the person watching the self-check area (or another cashier) as they have to go into some screens that the customer won't have access to. They usually have to scan their badge to get those screens to come up.

    I have not seen it often, but they can do it.


    Here (UK) the customer can do it as there is a numeric keypad on the screen of the self serve. There's one barcode that will stick in my memory for ever from when I worked on a till 50201600 A Cadbury's Creme Egg (due to their shape the individual eggs never scanned). I did used to know a lottery ticket as well but that seems to have escaeped me!

    This was from the days where the till was just a numeric keypad with function buttons...no touch screen, and a single dotmatrix line display. When the place I worked finally did upgrade there was a dedicated button for Creme Eggs and Lottery Tickets...you could also Win Key + R and load up solitaire for those long shifts!

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Wed Dec 20 09:21:30 2023
    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Tue Dec 19 2023 11:48 pm

    it just sounds like another scam that does nothing for the environment and makes more money for someone. like i said those regular bags disintegrate. even when packed in tight. i've seen it with my own eyes.

    And it doesn't really make much sense to me that it's only the bags at checkout, but the clear plastic bags for produce, bulk items, etc. are still free.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Wed Dec 20 12:18:51 2023
    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Dec 20 2023 09:21 am

    it just sounds like another scam that does nothing for the environment and makes more money for someone. like i said those regular bags disintegrate. even when packed in tight. i've seen it with my own eyes.

    And it doesn't really make much sense to me that it's only the bags at checkout, but the clear plastic bags for produce, bulk items, etc. are still free.


    and those bags do not break down like checkout bags.
    it's 'conserving' for face.

    just like how china pretends to recycle but the recycle trash goes to the normal trash.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Wed Dec 20 08:54:00 2023
    I've seen them do it. It has to be done by the person watching the self-check area (or another cashier) as they have to go into some screens that the customer won't have access to. They usually have to scan their badge to get those screens to come up.

    I have not seen it often, but they can do it.

    do you go to kroger stores? i normally just go to kroger and walmart.
    i don't buy anything weird so i don't really have scan problems.

    Yes, those are the two I usually go to. I don't usually have scan problems unless something is wrong with the barcode.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Wed Dec 20 08:56:00 2023
    what i'm getting at is doing pumping service, etc is part of an old mindset tha
    no longer works. i'll pump my gas, walk into kwiktrip while it's filling and
    e out. no issue for me.

    With the decline in service to pretty much just pumping gas, I would have
    to agree... there is not much point in it.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Wed Dec 20 09:00:00 2023
    They sell them as "reusable" bags, and they are a little bigger and thicker
    than the usual ones, but they are no where near as sturdy as the optional reusable bags you can buy upon checkout here.

    it just sounds like another scam that does nothing for the environment
    and makes more money for someone. like i said those regular bags disintegrate
    even when packed in tight. i've seen it with my own eyes.

    I thought so also. IMHO, if someone was concerned about the environment, they'd buy some of the more sturdy (usually cloth or some synthetic) bags
    and take those into the store with them. The bags in question, being
    similar to the regular bags, just thicker, don't seem like something you
    could keep around near as long as the reusable alternatives, and also don't seem like something that would disintegrate as fast as the regular plastic bags. Sounds more like a lose-lose.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to VELA025 on Wed Dec 20 09:44:00 2023
    This was from the days where the till was just a numeric keypad with function buttons...no touch screen, and a single dotmatrix line display. When the plac
    I worked finally did upgrade there was a dedicated button for Creme Eggs and Lottery Tickets...you could also Win Key + R and load up solitaire for those long shifts!

    We do have some things that the customer can look up and ring out without intervention. Usually fruit and veg where the little sticker is likely to
    come off. Maybe there is a way to get it to let us key a barcode that I
    just don't know about. They do appear to run Windows as I have seen some
    of them booting up, or stuck on a "screen of death." ;)

    I worked retail back in the late 1980s. Would have been nice to be able to bring up a game of some sort but my long shifts were usually busy ones.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Wed Dec 20 11:44:12 2023
    Re: Full-service gas
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Dec 20 2023 08:56 am

    what i'm getting at is doing pumping service, etc is part of an old mindset
    tha no longer works. i'll pump my gas, walk into kwiktrip while it's
    filling and e out. no issue for me.

    With the decline in service to pretty much just pumping gas, I would have to agree... there is not much point in it.

    The state where I live recently started to allow self-service gas pumping. I'm fine with pumping my own gas, and it does save time since you don't have to wait for an attendant, though there were times I did like not having to get out of my car to do that.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Thu Dec 21 05:57:29 2023
    Re: Full-service gas
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Dec 20 2023 08:56 am

    what i'm getting at is doing pumping service, etc is part of an old mindset tha
    no longer works. i'll pump my gas, walk into kwiktrip while it's filling and
    e out. no issue for me.

    With the decline in service to pretty much just pumping gas, I would have
    to agree... there is not much point in it.



    like i said before, i used to use this gas station and you'd pump gas and your hand would stink like gas. I haven't had that issue for years. that's the only reason why i'd let someone pump my gas for me.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Dumas Walker on Thu Dec 21 06:01:09 2023
    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Dec 20 2023 09:00 am

    I thought so also. IMHO, if someone was concerned about the environment, they'd buy some of the more sturdy (usually cloth or some synthetic) bags and take those into the store with them. The bags in question, being similar to the regular bags, just thicker, don't seem like something you could keep around near as long as the reusable alternatives, and also don't seem like something that would disintegrate as fast as the regular plastic bags. Sounds more like a lose-lose.


    A sturdy reusable bag takes as much plastic to produce as 40 expendable bags.

    I am not sure most people uses reusable bags for long enough to break even. Some people does but I don't think most do.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Thu Dec 21 07:08:15 2023
    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: Arelor to Dumas Walker on Thu Dec 21 2023 06:01 am


    A sturdy reusable bag takes as much plastic to produce as 40 expendable bags.

    I am not sure most people uses reusable bags for long enough to break even. Some people does but I don't think most do.

    we use them for used cat litter.
    and when i did doordash i would take a ton with me for when it was raining to protect the people's bags.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Arelor on Thu Dec 21 09:44:46 2023
    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: Arelor to Dumas Walker on Thu Dec 21 2023 06:01 am

    A sturdy reusable bag takes as much plastic to produce as 40 expendable bags.

    I am not sure most people uses reusable bags for long enough to break even. Some people does but I don't think most do.

    It seems to me that most people who use reusable bags buy them somewhere else, and the ones I usually see people using aren't plastic, but are made of fabric of some kind.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thu Dec 21 10:02:00 2023
    just like how china pretends to recycle but the recycle trash goes to the norma
    trash.

    And eventually into the waterways and the ocean.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Thu Dec 21 19:55:00 2023
    A sturdy reusable bag takes as much plastic to produce as 40 expendable bags.

    I am not sure most people uses reusable bags for long enough to break even. Some people does but I don't think most do.

    It seems to me that most people who use reusable bags buy them somewhere else,
    nd the ones I usually see people using aren't plastic, but are made of fabric
    some kind.

    In the first sentence, re: plastic bags, he is talking specifically to me
    about the "reusable" plastic bags that markets in Southern CA sell at the checkout. They are slighly larger and thicker than the disposable bags,
    and are not as sturdy looking as the ones you are refering to (i.e. the
    ones that people who really care about the environment are going to be
    using).


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Arelor on Thu Dec 21 20:04:00 2023
    Hello Arelor!

    A sturdy reusable bag takes as much plastic to produce as
    40 expendable bags.

    I am not sure most people uses reusable bags for long
    enough to break even. Some people does but I don't think
    most do.

    So... do you provide plastic bags for walk-in customers? What
    are other shops in Spain providing wrt bags?

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Fri Dec 22 06:44:03 2023
    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Thu Dec 21 2023 10:02 am

    just like how china pretends to recycle but the recycle trash goes to the norma
    trash.

    And eventually into the waterways and the ocean.



    well i saw a video on it and they are old school. a guy will come buy and dig through it and sell it to be recycled. like the 80s in the usa.

    then i guess the factories throw the microplastics in the ocean! :D
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Fri Dec 22 06:44:45 2023
    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Thu Dec 21 2023 07:55 pm


    In the first sentence, re: plastic bags, he is talking specifically to me about the "reusable" plastic bags that markets in Southern CA sell at the checkout. They are slighly larger and thicker than the disposable bags,
    and are not as sturdy looking as the ones you are refering to (i.e. the
    ones that people who really care about the environment are going to be using).



    so the good ones are aldi style, right.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Fri Dec 22 09:16:27 2023
    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Thu Dec 21 2023 07:55 pm

    A sturdy reusable bag takes as much plastic to produce as 40
    expendable
    bags.

    I am not sure most people uses reusable bags for long enough to break
    even. Some people does but I don't think most do.

    It seems to me that most people who use reusable bags buy them somewhere
    else, nd the ones I usually see people using aren't plastic, but are made
    of fabric some kind.

    In the first sentence, re: plastic bags, he is talking specifically to me about the "reusable" plastic bags that markets in Southern CA sell at the checkout. They are slighly larger and thicker than the disposable bags, and are not as sturdy looking as the ones you are refering to (i.e. the ones that people who really care about the environment are going to be using).

    I knwow what he was talking about - They have those bags at stores where I am too.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Ogg on Tue Dec 26 06:25:02 2023
    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Thu Dec 21 2023 08:04 pm

    So... do you provide plastic bags for walk-in customers? What
    are other shops in Spain providing wrt bags?

    I provide paper bags, because when I was getting started, my mother wanted me to have beautiful bags and didn't like the ones I was getting. She bought threeyears worth of bags supply and gave them to me for free just so I was forced touse them instead of the ones I actuallyu wanted to use...

    It is illegal in Spain to give carry-away bags for free. I have mines concealedand if some customer asks for one I pull it out and give it to him for free.
    Most people is expending well above 50 bucks per order and I think billing 5 cents when somebody is spending 75 bucks is very lame.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Tue Dec 26 08:29:56 2023
    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: Arelor to Ogg on Tue Dec 26 2023 06:25 am


    It is illegal in Spain to give carry-away bags for free. I have mines concealedand if some customer asks for one I pull it out and give it to him for free.
    Most people is expending well above 50 bucks per order and I think billing 5 cents when somebody is spending 75 bucks is very lame.

    so it's illegal to give plastic bags for free, but does the money charged go to a certain separate program for recycling?
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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Arelor on Tue Dec 26 20:25:00 2023
    Hello Arelor!

    It is illegal in Spain to give carry-away bags for free.

    All bags? ..or just plastic ones?

    If have to charge for the bags, do you have to send that money
    to the government? How can they even enforce it?


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ogg on Wed Dec 27 08:56:00 2023
    Ogg wrote to Arelor <=-

    If have to charge for the bags, do you have to send that money
    to the government? How can they even enforce it?

    If they're shrewd they build it into the cost of the bag.

    Not many people knew that blank CD-Rs had a kickback to the recording
    industry. Every single one. They *assumed* that CD-Rs would be used for pirating music, and so lobbied the government to include a built-in
    tariff, regardless of what you used them for. The manufacturer pays the government and bakes the charge into the media.

    They probably do the same with bags.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Dec 28 02:44:32 2023
    Re: Re: Self serve checkout
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Ogg on Wed Dec 27 2023 08:56 am

    pirating music, and so lobbied the government to include a built-in
    tariff, regardless of what you used them for. The manufacturer pays the government and bakes the charge into the media.

    They probably do the same with bags.


    I doubt they do.
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Ogg on Thu Dec 28 15:02:12 2023
    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Tue Dec 26 2023 08:25 pm

    It is illegal in Spain to give carry-away bags for free.

    All bags? ..or just plastic ones?

    If have to charge for the bags, do you have to send that money
    to the government? How can they even enforce it?

    Probably the same way sales tax is enforced/handled.

    But, I'm not sure if it goes that far. The "fee" is really just a deterrent for people to not use plastic bags. I'm not sure how well it works.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Dec 28 18:43:00 2023
    Hello pF!** pF> Not many people knew that blank CD-Rs had a kickback to* pF> the recording industry. Every single one. They *assumed** pF> that CD-Rs would be used for pirating music, and so* pF> lobbied the government to include a built-in tariff,* pF> regardless of what you used them for. The manufacturer* pF> pays the government and bakes the charge into the media.**That tarrif was made widely known.*** pF> They probably do the same with bags.**Mums the word wrt bags. So, I doubt it's the same.**I just have to wonder how the gov't can force a retailer to *charge for the use of a bag.***--- OpenXP 5.0.58* * Origin: Ogg's Dovenet Point (723:320/1.9)* þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTP*
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Fri Dec 29 07:33:48 2023
    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: Ogg to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Dec 28 2023 06:43 pm

    Hello pF!

    Not many people knew that blank CD-Rs had a kickback to
    the recording industry. Every single one. They *assumed*
    that CD-Rs would be used for pirating music, and so
    lobbied the government to include a built-in tariff,
    regardless of what you used them for. The manufacturer
    pays the government and bakes the charge into the media.

    That tarrif was made widely known.


    i'm pretty sure that tarrif was only for canada.

    I just have to wonder how the gov't can force a retailer to
    charge for the use of a bag.

    people can just decide to ignore them.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to MRO on Sat Dec 30 04:41:45 2023
    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: MRO to Arelor on Tue Dec 26 2023 08:29 am

    so it's illegal to give plastic bags for free, but does the money charged go
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    No, it doesn't get funneled into any recycling program.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Ogg on Sat Dec 30 04:46:34 2023
    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Tue Dec 26 2023 08:25 pm

    Hello Arelor!

    It is illegal in Spain to give carry-away bags for free.

    All bags? ..or just plastic ones?

    If have to charge for the bags, do you have to send that money
    to the government? How can they even enforce it?



    THey started banning free plastic bags. I don't know if they have borged paperbags in because, frankly, I don't care.

    You can be as careful as you want not to break the law, then one day you get fined for some stupid detail you didn't even know was a legal requerinment.

    When you have ten thousand silly laws, you destroy any respect for law.

    There is no way I am gonna get my retirement pension out of the Spanish welfaresystem, so excuse me if I fail to comply with their nonsense.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Dec 30 04:52:21 2023
    Re: Re: Self serve checkout
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Ogg on Wed Dec 27 2023 08:56 am

    If they're shrewd they build it into the cost of the bag.

    It is not a tax. They just want you to bill the bag.

    Of course they would get the VAT from the bag that way. I guess many people hasnot realized it was a covered tax raise on working class folks - if I give a
    bag for free I don't include its VAT in my declaration, if I happen to operate a business that declares VAT.

    Small retailers don't declare VAT (they pay the sale taxes in advance, before selling the stuff) so how you declare your bag sales to be like afterwards doesn't matter much. It is different for big surfaces that do VAT declarations,in which I guess it makes a difference if the government get 21% of the price
    of all bags sold.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to MRO on Sat Dec 30 04:53:33 2023
    Re: Re: Self serve checkout
    By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Dec 28 2023 02:44 am

    I doubt they do.


    Well, they bake a lot of hidden taxes in stuff.

    You buy a LED light, it gets a recycle tax thrown in.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to DaiTengu on Sat Dec 30 04:54:51 2023
    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: DaiTengu to Ogg on Thu Dec 28 2023 03:02 pm

    But, I'm not sure if it goes that far. The "fee" is really just a deterrent
    It doesn't. People uses plastic bags as if there was no tomorrow anyway. THey just get to pay moar.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Ogg on Sat Dec 30 04:58:21 2023
    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: Ogg to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Dec 28 2023 06:43 pm

    I just have to wonder how the gov't can force a retailer to
    charge for the use of a bag.


    By sending the Gestapo Business Inspection police to check you have the sign that reads "In accordance to law XXX we are billing for the bags in this place."

    So many people have those signs that I suspect it is yet another mound of mandatory bullshit.

    They also check you have your heating tunned down because they want both you and your customers to freeze to death in your store.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sat Dec 30 08:07:07 2023
    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: Arelor to MRO on Sat Dec 30 2023 04:41 am

    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: MRO to Arelor on Tue Dec 26 2023 08:29 am

    so it's illegal to give plastic bags for free, but does the money charged go
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    No, it doesn't get funneled into any recycling program.


    okay then i guess the stores make a profit by doing it.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sat Dec 30 08:08:20 2023
    Re: Self serve checkout
    By: Arelor to Ogg on Sat Dec 30 2023 04:46 am


    THey started banning free plastic bags. I don't know if they have borged paperbags in because, frankly, I don't care.

    You can be as careful as you want not to break the law, then one day you get fined for some stupid detail you didn't even know was a legal requerinment.

    When you have ten thousand silly laws, you destroy any respect for law.

    There is no way I am gonna get my retirement pension out of the Spanish welfaresystem, so excuse me if I fail to comply with their nonsense.


    maybe we should all have a revolution in our countries.
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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sat Dec 30 18:28:00 2023
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Saturday 30.12.23 - 08:07, MRO wrote to Arelor:

    so it's illegal to give plastic bags for free, but does
    the money charged go
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    No, it doesn't get funneled into any recycling program.


    okay then i guess the stores make a profit by doing it.

    A basic plastic bag costs about 5cents to buy in bulk. So..
    the charge wouldn't be a profit by any means. However, a paper
    bag with handles can easily cost 25cents to get. At that cost,
    I would be incentivised to charge for those! :D


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