Weatherman wrote to Moondog <=-

I have no complaints about Ruger firearms. They're good shooters at a decent price point. It's a shame they don't have the appeal or prestige as other manufacturers with comparable product.

I always have liked Rugers. Have several in calibers from .22 to .45 Colt. I was never one to be overly concerned with the prestige of a brand, instead preferring to concentrate on quality and usefulness. I find that a lot of times a big name that draws a big price is just an example of spending extra money for that name and not receiving
anything else in return....

Same here... The little Wrangler is an EXCELLANT gun! And now they have the "super" model for magnum?!?!




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Moondog wrote to Weatherman <=-

I get what you're saying about having a name that delivers a larger
price, however I find it strange that Ruger's auto-loading pistols
haven't sold as well as Smith and Wessons or similar priced guns. I
don't know many police or security guys who carry Rugers. I see alot
of Sigs, Glocks, and Smiths.

I find it silly how snobbish people get when someone says they own a P-series Ruger.

Not just guns... I have an old Yamaha acoustic guitar that was made in
69. It's basically a copy of a D-18 Martin, and people at bluegrass jams
will comment on the sound, and then they see the headstock and you can
see the nose turn up cause it 'ain't a Martin...'

:-)





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Re: snobby
By: Jimmy Anderson to Moondog on Fri May 05 2023 07:33 pm

Moondog wrote to Weatherman <=-

I get what you're saying about having a name that delivers a larger price, however I find it strange that Ruger's auto-loading pistols haven't sold as well as Smith and Wessons or similar priced guns. I don't know many police or security guys who carry Rugers. I see alot of Sigs, Glocks, and Smiths.

I find it silly how snobbish people get when someone says they own a P-series Ruger.

Not just guns... I have an old Yamaha acoustic guitar that was made in
69. It's basically a copy of a D-18 Martin, and people at bluegrass jams will comment on the sound, and then they see the headstock and you can
see the nose turn up cause it 'ain't a Martin...'

:-)

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Snobbery is universal. I can understand it somewhat. When one gets used to
a premium product, everything else is "inferior" no matter it's strong or weak
points.

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Jimmy Anderson wrote to Weatherman <=-

Weatherman wrote to Moondog <=-

I have no complaints about Ruger firearms. They're good shooters at a decent price point. It's a shame they don't have the appeal or prestige as other manufacturers with comparable product.

I always have liked Rugers. Have several in calibers from .22 to .45 Colt. I was never one to be overly concerned with the prestige of a brand, instead preferring to concentrate on quality and usefulness. I find that a lot of times a big name that draws a big price is just an example of spending extra money for that name and not receiving
anything else in return....

Same here... The little Wrangler is an EXCELLANT gun! And now they have the "super" model for magnum?!?!

Have a pair of Wranglers. I like my Single Six (older three-screw model) better, but the Wranger is not bad at all. Certainly better than the Heritage Rough Riders I've managed to accumulate - which are STILL fun little guns to shoot. It's not really a fair comparison, the Single Six is just a top of the line .22 revolver, there's nothing in my mind to compare it to. The Heritage and the Wranger are within the same realm. Heritage does fun things like custom grips, oddball barrel lengths and the like, and the Wrangler is more like a "we'll keep to basics and do the basics well, thank you" kind of item. Either way, at the price range they're in, I have a feeling I'll collect a few more of these .22 plinksters just for fun....



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MOONDOG wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

Not just guns... I have an old Yamaha acoustic guitar that was made in
69. It's basically a copy of a D-18 Martin, and people at bluegrass jams will comment on the sound, and then they see the headstock and you can
see the nose turn up cause it 'ain't a Martin...'

Snobbery is universal. I can understand it somewhat. When one gets
used to a premium product, everything else is "inferior" no matter it's strong or weak
points.

Yeah, I get that. But when something is NOT inherently inferior, and
actually is a great example of being built well and works great and
people only turn their nose AFTER they see the brand... You know,
they wouldn't have known the brand by the quality.




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WEATHERMAN wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

Same here... The little Wrangler is an EXCELLANT gun! And now they have the "super" model for magnum?!?!

Have a pair of Wranglers.

I only have one, but I did buy some upgraded grips for it...

I like my Single Six (older three-screw
model) better, but the Wranger is not bad at all.

I had a Single Six - was stolen in a break in. :( My father
in law, before he passed, gave me a Heritage with a magnum
cylinder and I got IMOP grips for it to 'mimic' my old
Single Six. I'm happy with it. :-)

Certainly better
than the Heritage Rough Riders I've managed to accumulate - which are STILL fun little guns to shoot. It's not really a fair comparison, the Single Six is just a top of the line .22 revolver, there's nothing in
my mind to compare it to.

Agreed! I bought a barkeep, though, and THAT is a fun little gun! :-) I
got the one with the simulated case hardened look and wood grips, and I
bought one of their etched cylinders for it and got a Desantis holster
for it. :-)

I bought another Heritage with black finish and black pearl grips - on
sale at Smokey Mountain Guns - got it home and the sites were off - BAD.

Sent it back and they replaced it, and the replacement is BETTER but still
not 'right.' I'm going to, one day, strip the finish on it and twist the
barral to fix it.

The Heritage and the Wranger are within the
same realm. Heritage does fun things like custom grips, oddball barrel lengths and the like, and the Wrangler is more like a "we'll keep to basics and do the basics well, thank you" kind of item. Either way, at
the price range they're in, I have a feeling I'll collect a few more of these .22 plinksters just for fun....

Yep! Right there with you! I also caught another little .22 on sale at
Rural King and picked it up. I can't remember the brand now - Cimmiron
maybe? What's 'different' about it is the barral is the same size as
a .45 but the 'hole' is for a .22.

Guess what I'm saying is that it is BIG and HEAVY...





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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to WEATHERMAN <=-

Agreed! I bought a barkeep, though, and THAT is a fun little gun! :-) I got the one with the simulated case hardened look and wood grips, and I bought one of their etched cylinders for it and got a Desantis holster
for it. :-)

Not much impressed with the barkeep. Anything you have to carry a separate tool around just to eject the cases doesn't work for me. I suppose you could use the cylinder pin - if it will fit in the cylinder holes... I know the NAA revolvers are designed to use the cylinder pin to punch out empty shells.

I bought another Heritage with black finish and black pearl grips - on sale at Smokey Mountain Guns - got it home and the sites were off -
BAD.

Sent it back and they replaced it, and the replacement is BETTER but
still not 'right.' I'm going to, one day, strip the finish on it and
twist the barral to fix it.

Doesn't surprise me. Sights on the Heritage revolvers aren't that good to begin with, I can certainly understand if they're off as well. They certainly weren't designed to be target pistols, that's for sure. Still, if they are "minute of tin can" accurate that would be good enough for me.

We DID pick up a new Heritage Arms .22 revolver at the last gun show. This is a Billy the Kid commerative. Rough Rider 4" barrel with Billy the Kid's image inscribed on the grips. Blued cylinder, barrel, hammer and trigger, the frame itself has a case hardened appearance. Looks nice, hopefully it will shoot nice as well.

Yep! Right there with you! I also caught another little .22 on sale at Rural King and picked it up. I can't remember the brand now - Cimmiron maybe? What's 'different' about it is the barral is the same size as
a .45 but the 'hole' is for a .22.

Guess what I'm saying is that it is BIG and HEAVY...

I have some Cimmaron .45 revolvers, very nice pieces. Don't have one in .22 but from what I've seen of their .45's you probably got yourself a nice little .22 there....



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Weatherman wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

Not much impressed with the barkeep. Anything you have to carry a separate tool around just to eject the cases doesn't work for me. I suppose you could use the cylinder pin - if it will fit in the cylinder holes... I know the NAA revolvers are designed to use the cylinder pin
to punch out empty shells.

I don't mind it, and the holster I bought has a place to hold the
ejector thingy. :-)

Doesn't surprise me. Sights on the Heritage revolvers aren't that
good to begin with, I can certainly understand if they're off as well. They certainly weren't designed to be target pistols, that's for sure. Still, if they are "minute of tin can" accurate that would be good
enough for me.

LOL - very true - and that's good enough for me too. Or 'minute of torso'
for 20 yard plinking on metal targets. :-)

We DID pick up a new Heritage Arms .22 revolver at the last gun show. This is a Billy the Kid commerative. Rough Rider 4" barrel with Billy
the Kid's image inscribed on the grips. Blued cylinder, barrel, hammer and trigger, the frame itself has a case hardened appearance. Looks
nice, hopefully it will shoot nice as well.

Wow - does sound cool!

Yep! Right there with you! I also caught another little .22 on sale at Rural King and picked it up. I can't remember the brand now - Cimmiron maybe? What's 'different' about it is the barral is the same size as
a .45 but the 'hole' is for a .22.

Guess what I'm saying is that it is BIG and HEAVY...

I have some Cimmaron .45 revolvers, very nice pieces. Don't have one
in .22 but from what I've seen of their .45's you probably got yourself
a nice little .22 there....

It's better than the 'bad' Heritage I got... LOL



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