Are most of you giving up on itunes? I use Helium Music Manager to play my media files for the last few years.


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Re: Music players
By: MATTHEW MUNSON to All on Wed Mar 25 2020 12:07 pm

Are most of you giving up on itunes? I use Helium Music Manager to play my media files for the last few years.

I use mostly Spotify and Amazon.


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Grease wrote to MATTHEW MUNSON <=-

Are most of you giving up on itunes? I use Helium Music Manager to play my media files for the last few years.

I use mostly Spotify and Amazon.

I use CD's and Sirius/XM. :-)



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MATTHEW MUNSON wrote to All <=-

Are most of you giving up on itunes? I use Helium Music Manager to play
my media files for the last few years.

I'm on Android. I use Winamp on my PC and BlackPlayer EX on my phone. I
still need to find a decent CD ripping solution, that's the only reason I
keep iTunes around.


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Re: Music players
By: Grease to MATTHEW MUNSON on Wed Mar 25 2020 04:10 am

Are most of you giving up on itunes? I use Helium Music Manager to
play my media files for the last few years.

I use mostly Spotify and Amazon.

Streaming, I assume? Things like iTunes are more for playing your own local media files.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Music players
By: poindexter FORTRAN to MATTHEW MUNSON on Wed Mar 25 2020 09:46 am

I'm on Android. I use Winamp on my PC and BlackPlayer EX on my phone. I still need to find a decent CD ripping solution, that's the only reason I keep iTunes around.

For CD ripping, I used CDex for a long time and would first rip to WAV, then compress it to FLAC for a backup, and then convert the FLAC to MP3 for play on my PC and other devices. More recently, I found dbpoweramp, which can rip CDs directly to FLAC and MP3. dbpoweramp can even rip to multiple formats simultaneously, so that could be useful if you want to rip to both FLAC and MP3 or another format. dbpoweramp is a pay program though (it's not free).

I also use Android, and I've been using Poweramp on Android to play my local music (Poweramp is not related to the dbpoweramp CD ripper, that I know of anyway).

Nightfox

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Re: Music players
By: MATTHEW MUNSON to All on Wed Mar 25 2020 12:07 pm

Are most of you giving up on itunes? I use Helium Music Manager to play my media files for the last few years.

I used to use iTunes, but I started looking at other music players months ago. When I upgraded to a 4K monitor, I seem to remember iTunes having some trouble with it (I think it wasn't scaling its UI well). Currently I've been using MusicBee. I think MediaMonkey is fairly good too.

Nightfox

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Re: Music players
By: MATTHEW MUNSON to All on Wed Mar 25 2020 12:07:00

Are most of you giving up on itunes? I use Helium Music Manager to play my media files for the last few years.

I was never a fan of iTunes. I always used WinAMP, but for the past couple of years I've been using VLC because it seems to play pretty much anything.
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Re: Music players
By: Lupine Furmen to MATTHEW MUNSON on Wed Mar 25 2020 10:48 am

I was never a fan of iTunes. I always used WinAMP, but for the past couple of years I've been using VLC because it seems to play pretty much anything. -+-

I always liked WinAmp, but I don't think it really had any good UI scaling. Over the years, as I upgraded my PC monitor, the WinAmp UI would get smaller as my screen resolution increased. When I upgraded to a 4K monitor last year, I finally stopped using WinAmp since its UI was just too small. I think WinAmp did have a UI zoom feature, but I still don't think it looked very good. I don't think its UI used the standard Windows UI features and thus didn't abide by the Windows UI zoom settings.

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Re: Music players
By: MATTHEW MUNSON to All on Wed Mar 25 2020 12:07 pm

Are most of you giving up on itunes? I use Helium Music Manager to play my media files for the last few years.

I moved to Spotify years ago. I now buy maybe 1-2 albums a year from my favorite bands when they release something, but everything I listen to is available there.

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Re: Music players
By: Nightfox to Grease on Wed Mar 25 2020 01:37 pm

I use mostly Spotify and Amazon.

Streaming, I assume? Things like iTunes are more for playing your own local media files.

Spotify will play local files.

I use PLEX for most of my local media streaming/playing. I have about 40TB of movies/TV that isn't available (for the most part) on streaming services.

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Re: Music players
By: Nightfox to Grease on Wed Mar 25 2020 01:37 pm

I use mostly Spotify and Amazon.

Streaming, I assume? Things like iTunes are more for playing your own local media files.

Oh, Audacious and Rythmbox. Can't remember what I use for cd to .mp3 at the moment.

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Re: Music players
By: DaiTengu to Nightfox on Wed Mar 25 2020 05:21 pm

Spotify will play local files.

I use PLEX for most of my local media streaming/playing. I have about 40TB of movies/TV that isn't available (for the most part) on streaming services.

I use Plex at home too. I have ripped some of my movies and put them on Plex, but for other movies, I figure I can still just get out the disc and play it. :)

I put my music library on my Plex server too, so I can play it on my Plex-enabled devices if I want (though I also have a copy of my music library on my phone, my main desktop PC, and on a USB flash drive in my car).

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I'm on Android. I use Winamp on my PC and BlackPlayer EX on my phone. I still need to find a decent CD ripping solution, that's the only reason I keep iTunes around.

Try Helium Music Manager.

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Re: Music players
By: Lupine Furmen to MATTHEW MUNSON on Wed Mar 25 2020 10:48 am

I was never a fan of iTunes. I always used WinAMP, but for the past couple of years I've been using VLC because it seems to play pretty much anything.

I am also not a fan of iTunes. I don't like software solutions that put a lot of bloat in tasks that should be simple.

VLC is nice. I use Mplayer for videos because that is what comes by default with Slackware, and it has about the same functionality, both for playing and encoding.

For playing audio, I just go with Music on Console.

For encoding, I just go with oggenc and flac (the cli tool) because I don't feel like installing a heavy program with a heavy interface when a cli does the trick.

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Re: Music players
By: Nightfox to Lupine Furmen on Wed Mar 25 2020 14:08:01

I always liked WinAmp, but I don't think it really had any good UI scaling. Over the years, as I upgraded my PC monitor, the WinAmp UI would get smaller as my screen resolution increased. When I upgraded to a 4K monitor last year, I finally stopped using WinAmp since its UI was just too small. I think WinAmp did have a UI zoom feature, but I still don't think it looked very good. I don't think its UI used the standard Windows UI features and thus didn't abide by the Windows UI zoom settings.

Did you try changing the skin to something that was designed for higher res monitors. That was one of the things I really liked about WinAMP was it's skinability.
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Re: Music players
By: Lupine Furmen to Nightfox on Thu Mar 26 2020 11:21 am

I always liked WinAmp, but I don't think it really had any good UI
scaling. Over the years, as I upgraded my PC monitor, the WinAmp UI
would get smaller as my screen resolution increased. When I upgraded
to a 4K monitor last year, I finally stopped using WinAmp since its
UI was just too small. I think WinAmp did have a UI zoom feature,
but I still don't think it looked very good. I don't think its UI
used the standard Windows UI features and thus didn't abide by the
Windows UI zoom settings.

Did you try changing the skin to something that was designed for higher res monitors. That was one of the things I really liked about WinAMP was it's skinability.

I used to use WinAmp skins a long time ago, but I hadn't thought about that for the UI scaling issue.

Nightfox

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On 3/25/2020 9:46 AM, poindexter FORTRAN wrote:

I'm on Android. I use Winamp on my PC and BlackPlayer EX on my phone. I
still need to find a decent CD ripping solution, that's the only reason I keep iTunes around.

I thought WinAMP did CD ripping okay... Windows Media Player is also
decent at it.

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Re: Re: Music players
By: Tracker1 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Mar 27 2020 09:28 am

I thought WinAMP did CD ripping okay... Windows Media Player is also decent at it.

I had never used WinAmp or Windows Media Player for CD ripping.. Do they rip to MP3, or can you configure the format they rip to?

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Re: Re: Music players
By: Nightfox to Tracker1 on Fri Mar 27 2020 12:24 pm

Re: Re: Music players
By: Tracker1 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Mar 27 2020 09:28 am

I thought WinAMP did CD ripping okay... Windows Media Player is also decent at it.

I had never used WinAmp or Windows Media Player for CD ripping.. Do they ri to MP3, or can you configure the format they rip to?

i ripped to .wav and then converted it with a command line mp3 encoder

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On 3/27/2020 12:24 PM, Nightfox wrote:

I thought WinAMP did CD ripping okay... Windows Media Player is also
decent at it.

I had never used WinAmp or Windows Media Player for CD ripping.. Do they
rip to MP3, or can you configure the format they rip to?

IIRC, windamp was only mp3, and Windows Media Player is configurable...
used it a couple weeks ago to rip some CDs with songs she couldn't find online. I had started trying to setup CD Audio Extractor, and the cddb successor wasn't working right... I then thought to just try WMP, and
was surprised how well it worked out of the box.

Been probably a decade since I last did much CD ripping.

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On 3/28/2020 7:58 AM, MRO wrote:

i ripped to .wav and then converted it with a command line mp3 encoder

Don't you lose the metadata that way? If you use a ripper that adds the metadata for the CD info (artist, year, track, etc), it's imho a better experience.

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Re: Re: Music players
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Sat Mar 28 2020 11:54 am

IIRC, windamp was only mp3, and Windows Media Player is configurable...

I had also used WinAmp to play FLAC files sometimes.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Music players
By: Tracker1 to MRO on Sat Mar 28 2020 11:56 am

i ripped to .wav and then converted it with a command line mp3 encoder

Don't you lose the metadata that way? If you use a ripper that adds the metadata for the CD info (artist, year, track, etc), it's imho a better experience.

WAV doesn't have any metadata (other than just the sampling frequency, number of audio channels, etc.), so you aren't losing anything that way. You'd have to add the metadata to the MP3 after converting to MP3.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Music players
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Sat Mar 28 2020 11:54 am

On 3/27/2020 12:24 PM, Nightfox wrote:

I thought WinAMP did CD ripping okay... Windows Media Player is also decent at it.

I had never used WinAmp or Windows Media Player for CD ripping.. Do they rip to MP3, or can you configure the format they rip to?

IIRC, windamp was only mp3, and Windows Media Player is configurable... used it a couple weeks ago to rip some CDs with songs she couldn't find online. I had started trying to setup CD Audio Extractor, and the cddb successor wasn't working right... I then thought to just try WMP, and

winamp supports a lot of formats and has a log of plugins.

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Re: Re: Music players
By: Tracker1 to MRO on Sat Mar 28 2020 11:56 am

On 3/28/2020 7:58 AM, MRO wrote:

i ripped to .wav and then converted it with a command line mp3 encoder

Don't you lose the metadata that way? If you use a ripper that adds the metadata for the CD info (artist, year, track, etc), it's imho a better experience.

i didnt really care. i did artist - album - track# trackname for filename

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Re: Re: Music players
By: MRO to Tracker1 on Sat Mar 28 2020 10:14 pm

Don't you lose the metadata that way? If you use a ripper that adds
the metadata for the CD info (artist, year, track, etc), it's imho a
better experience.

i didnt really care. i did artist - album - track# trackname for filename

Most (if not all) music players these days don't care about the filename and will read the metadata. Most music player software that I've used don't necessarily know (or even care) what filename format you're using, so they have no good or consistent way to extract that information from the filename.

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Re: Re: Music players
By: Nightfox to MRO on Sat Mar 28 2020 08:40 pm

i didnt really care. i did artist - album - track# trackname for filena

Most (if not all) music players these days don't care about the filename and will read the metadata. Most music player software that I've used don't necessarily know (or even care) what filename format you're using, so they h no good or consistent way to extract that information from the filename.

they all go by the metadata and if that's missing they go by filename.

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On 3/28/2020 7:48 AM, Nightfox wrote:

Re: Re: Music players
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Sat Mar 28 2020 11:54 am

Tr> IIRC, windamp was only mp3, and Windows Media Player is configurable...

I had also used WinAmp to play FLAC files sometimes.

context: ripping ... but may have been wrong.. it's been a while.

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On 3/28/2020 7:52 AM, Nightfox wrote:

WAV doesn't have any metadata (other than just the sampling frequency, number of audio channels, etc.), so you aren't losing anything that way. You'd have to add the metadata to the MP3 after converting to MP3.

Exactly... if you're using something like winamp, or wmp to rip, then it
will put the metadata into the mp3/flac/acc file(s) for you... if you
use .wav you don't get that.

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On 3/28/2020 1:13 PM, MRO wrote:

winamp supports a lot of formats and has a log of plugins.

*sigh* the context was specifically ripping, I also said (iirc)

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Re: Re: Music players
By: MRO to Nightfox on Sun Mar 29 2020 01:13 am

Most (if not all) music players these days don't care about the
filename and will read the metadata. Most music player software that
I've used don't necessarily know (or even care) what filename format
you're using, so they h no good or consistent way to extract that
information from the filename.

they all go by the metadata and if that's missing they go by filename.

hmm.. So I guess there are some standard filename formats they recognize?

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Re: Re: Music players
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Sun Mar 29 2020 01:17 am

Exactly... if you're using something like winamp, or wmp to rip, then it will put the metadata into the mp3/flac/acc file(s) for you... if you
use .wav you don't get that.

I didn't like ripping directly to a lossy format such as MP3, so often what I liked to do was to rip to WAV, then I had a Python script I wrote that used the command-line FLAC tools to compress them to FLAC while adding metadata (taken from the filenames in the format I use). I keep the FLAC as a lossless backup, and I use another program to convert the FLAC to MP3 for play on my PC and other devices.

These days I've started to use dBpoweramp, which can rip directly to both FLAC and MP3 at the same time, and of course adding the metadata.

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On 3/29/2020 2:08 AM, Nightfox wrote:

These days I've started to use dBpoweramp, which can rip directly to both FLAC and MP3 at the same time, and of course adding the metadata.

Windows Media Player seems to support ripping directly to FLAC/ALAC, wma (lossy/lossless), wav and mp3 if you chose.

Doesn't seem to do both at once... with dbpoweramp, do you need a custom
login to lookup the cd info?

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Re: Re: Music players
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Sun Mar 29 2020 03:59 am

Windows Media Player seems to support ripping directly to FLAC/ALAC, wma (lossy/lossless), wav and mp3 if you chose.

Doesn't seem to do both at once... with dbpoweramp, do you need a custom login to lookup the cd info?

It's been a little while since the last time I ripped a music CD, but I don't remember needing a custom login to look up the CD info. But any times I've needed a login for that (which I needed for CDex), I've always just used a fake email address. I don't think I ever actaully had to create an account for CD information lookup.

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Re: Re: Music players
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Sun Mar 29 2020 01:16 am

On 3/28/2020 7:48 AM, Nightfox wrote:

Re: Re: Music players
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Sat Mar 28 2020 11:54 am

Tr> IIRC, windamp was only mp3, and Windows Media Player is configurable

I had also used WinAmp to play FLAC files sometimes.

context: ripping ... but may have been wrong.. it's been a while.

i played flac files and ripped them to wav

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Re: Re: Music players
By: Tracker1 to MRO on Sun Mar 29 2020 01:18 am

On 3/28/2020 1:13 PM, MRO wrote:

winamp supports a lot of formats and has a log of plugins.

*sigh* the context was specifically ripping, I also said (iirc)

*sigh*

the plugins allow you to rip, dumbass

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On 3/29/2020 12:27 PM, MRO wrote:

winamp supports a lot of formats and has a log of plugins.

*sigh* the context was specifically ripping, I also said (iirc)

*sigh*

the plugins allow you to rip, dumbass

Do you see the (iirc) part, with regards to ripping, I thought that
winamp only supported mp3. There's no reason to be an asshole.

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Re: Re: Music players
By: Tracker1 to MRO on Mon Mar 30 2020 06:12 pm

On 3/29/2020 12:27 PM, MRO wrote:

*sigh* the context was specifically ripping, I also said (iirc)

the plugins allow you to rip, dumbass

Do you see the (iirc) part, with regards to ripping, I thought that
winamp only supported mp3. There's no reason to be an asshole.

You must be new to Dove-Net.
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Re: Re: Music players
By: Android8675 to Tracker1 on Tue Mar 31 2020 08:09 am

Do you see the (iirc) part, with regards to ripping, I thought that
winamp only supported mp3. There's no reason to be an asshole.

You must be new to Dove-Net.

Nope, I've seen him posting on Dove-Net for years.

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Re: Re: Music players
By: Android8675 to Tracker1 on Tue Mar 31 2020 08:09 am

Re: Re: Music players
By: Tracker1 to MRO on Mon Mar 30 2020 06:12 pm

On 3/29/2020 12:27 PM, MRO wrote:

*sigh* the context was specifically ripping, I also said (iirc)

the plugins allow you to rip, dumbass

Do you see the (iirc) part, with regards to ripping, I thought that winamp only supported mp3. There's no reason to be an asshole.

You must be new to Dove-Net.

i've known tracker1 for 20 years

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Re: Re: Music players
By: MRO to Android8675 on Tue Mar 31 2020 10:56 am

Re: Re: Music players
By: Android8675 to Tracker1 on Tue Mar 31 2020 08:09 am

Re: Re: Music players
By: Tracker1 to MRO on Mon Mar 30 2020 06:12 pm

On 3/29/2020 12:27 PM, MRO wrote:

*sigh* the context was specifically ripping, I also said (iirc)

the plugins allow you to rip, dumbass

Do you see the (iirc) part, with regards to ripping, I thought that winamp only supported mp3. There's no reason to be an asshole.

You must be new to Dove-Net.

i've known tracker1 for 20 years

I'm very happy to see not much has changed in 20 years.

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Re: Re: Music players
By: The Lizard Master to MRO on Tue Mar 31 2020 11:42 pm

i've known tracker1 for 20 years

I'm very happy to see not much has changed in 20 years.

hey here's this dickhead again.

make sure you change your bbs tagline before you go back under your rock.

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Are most of you giving up on itunes? I use Helium Music Manager to play
my media files for the last few years.

I do the Apple Music $25 a year to have my full collection in the cloud,
but my wife really enjoyed Amazon Music as well.




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Re: Re: Music players
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to MATTHEW MUNSON on Thu Apr 02 2020 09:17 am

I do the Apple Music $25 a year to have my full collection in the cloud,
but my wife really enjoyed Amazon Music as well.

Amazon Music is pretty great. Very few songs missing, and at least of right now, I can still play my personal music hosted with them (they said they ar taking that portion down a while ago though).

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Re: Re: Music players
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to MATTHEW MUNSON on Thu Apr 02 2020 09:17 am

I do the Apple Music $25 a year to have my full collection in the cloud,
but my wife really enjoyed Amazon Music as well.

Hey I work for them, nice choice :)

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Re: Re: Music players
By: MRO to Android8675 on Tue Mar 31 2020 02:56 pm

You must be new to Dove-Net.

i've known tracker1 for 20 years

Sorry, at the time, I was just joking. Should of added more emoticons or something. ;)
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Re: Re: Music players
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to MATTHEW MUNSON on Thu Apr 02 2020 09:17 am

I do the Apple Music $25 a year to have my full collection in the cloud,
but my wife really enjoyed Amazon Music as well.

Hey I work for them, nice choice :)

squint

Which one?




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** On Friday 17.04.20 - 21:56, jimmy.anderson wrote to MATT:

MATT wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

I do the Apple Music $25 a year to have my full collection in the cloud,
but my wife really enjoyed Amazon Music as well.

Hey I work for them, nice choice :)
squint

Which one?

Is Apple Music still $25/yr somewhere? I just checked on their website
that it is normally $10/mo

Personally, I've sided with Spotify. They had a 99cents for three months introductory offer. Going forward it is $10/mo.

It is very nice to be able just look up a tune that one is curious about
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I do the Apple Music $25 a year to have my full collection in the cloud,
but my wife really enjoyed Amazon Music as well.

Hey I work for them, nice choice :)
squint

Which one?

Is Apple Music still $25/yr somewhere? I just checked on their website that it is normally $10/mo

For me to have my 'music in the cloud' option, yes - but that's not the 'unlimited everthing' option.

Personally, I've sided with Spotify. They had a 99cents for three
months introductory offer. Going forward it is $10/mo.

It is very nice to be able just look up a tune that one is curious
about and discover other related material along the way.

We do Amazon Music for that...



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Re: Re: Music players
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to OGG on Sun May 17 2020 03:34 am

We do Amazon Music for that...

Amazon Music is pretty great.

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Re: Re: Music players
By: The Lizard Master to JIMMY ANDERSON on Wed May 27 2020 05:45 pm

Re: Re: Music players
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to OGG on Sun May 17 2020 03:34 am

We do Amazon Music for that...

Amazon Music is pretty great.

It was better when they had their music match service active. :-(

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Re: Re: Music players
By: Digital Man to The Lizard Master on Wed May 27 2020 08:33 pm

Amazon Music is pretty great.

It was better when they had their music match service active. :-(

They also used to make it so you could upload your own music. It was cool to upload originl music and play it. i.e. I could say, Alexa, play TLM's Super Song. And it would. It still works for me, but they've sent me numerous messages it won't be working at some point, and you can no longer add to it. I get it, because people could use them as storage for there torrent music collections, but man it was a cool feature.

At some point I just need to install Plex, I heard that works the same way basically.

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Re: Re: Music players
By: The Lizard Master to Digital Man on Thu May 28 2020 09:44 am

They also used to make it so you could upload your own music. It was cool to upload originl music and play it. i.e. I could say, Alexa, play TLM's Super Song. And it would. It still works for me, but they've sent me numerous messages it won't be working at some point, and you can no longer add to it. I get it, because people could use them as storage for there torrent music collections, but man it was a cool feature.

At some point I just need to install Plex, I heard that works the same way basically.

Yes, if you put music on a Plex server, there's a Plex skill you can set up with Alexa to work with it. After installing the Plex skill, you need to configure the login credentials for yoru Plex account with it, and then you can say "Alexa, ask Plex to play ...."

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Re: Re: Music players
By: The Lizard Master to Digital Man on Thu May 28 2020 09:44 am

They also used to make it so you could upload your own music. It was cool to upload originl music and play it. i.e. I could say, Alexa, play TLM's Super Song. And it would. It still works for me, but they've sent me numerous messages it won't be working at some point, and you can no longer add to it. I get it, because people could use them as storage for there torrent music collections, but man it was a cool feature.

At some point I just need to install Plex, I heard that works the same way basically.

Yes, if you put music on a Plex server, there's a Plex skill you can
set up with Alexa to work with it. After installing the Plex skill,
you need to configure the login credentials for yoru Plex account with
it, and then you can say "Alexa, ask Plex to play ...."

Yall are some automation fiends. I'm happy with my good ol' ampache server.

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Re: Re: Music players
By: calcmandan to Nightfox on Thu May 28 2020 05:15 pm

Yes, if you put music on a Plex server, there's a Plex skill you can set up with Alexa to work with it. After installing the Plex skill, you need to configure the login credentials for yoru Plex account with it, and then you can say "Alexa, ask Plex to play ...."

That sounds like the ticket! Thanks!

Yall are some automation fiends. I'm happy with my good ol' ampache server.

You must step into the age of the Jetsons. It's quite nice.

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Re: Re: Music players
By: calcmandan to Nightfox on Thu May 28 2020 05:15 pm

Yes, if you put music on a Plex server, there's a Plex skill you can set up with Alexa to work with it. After installing the Plex skill, you need to configure the login credentials for yoru Plex account with it, and then you can say "Alexa, ask Plex to play ...."

That sounds like the ticket! Thanks!

Yall are some automation fiends. I'm happy with my good ol' ampache server.

You must step into the age of the Jetsons. It's quite nice.

Step into the age of the Jetsons while you post on a bbs echo. Roger.

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Re: Re: Music players
By: calcmandan to The Lizard Master on Fri May 29 2020 05:01:00


calcmandan>>> Yall are some automation fiends. I'm happy with my good ol'
calcmandan>>> ampache server.

You must step into the age of the Jetsons. It's quite nice.

calcmandan> Step into the age of the Jetsons while you post on a bbs echo.
calcmandan> Roger.

the trick is that they "wrote" the above via voice dictation and their system reads the messages to them using text2speech ;) O:)


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Re: Re: Music players
By: calcmandan to The Lizard Master on Fri May 29 2020 05:01 am

You must step into the age of the Jetsons. It's quite nice.

Step into the age of the Jetsons while you post on a bbs echo. Roger.

I said, Alexa, open my terminal program though.

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Rampage wrote to calcmandan <=-

calcmandan> Step into the age of the Jetsons while you post on a bbs
calcmandan> echo. Roger.

the trick is that they "wrote" the above via voice dictation and their system reads the messages to them using text2speech ;) O:)

I'm surprised everyone hasn't discovered MindBridge(tm) 3000; I just think what I'm going to type and it magically appears on the screen. I wonder if they can smell that?

DELETE!


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Re: Re: Music players
By: calcmandan to The Lizard Master on Fri May 29 2020 05:01 am

You must step into the age of the Jetsons. It's quite nice.

Step into the age of the Jetsons while you post on a bbs echo. Roger.

I said, Alexa, open my terminal program though.

HAHA funny

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Re: Re: Music players
By: calcmandan to The Lizard Master on Fri May 29 2020 05:01:00

calcmandan>>> Yall are some automation fiends. I'm happy with my good
ol'
calcmandan>>> ampache server.

You must step into the age of the Jetsons. It's quite nice.

calcmandan> Step into the age of the Jetsons while you post on a bbs echo.
calcmandan> Roger.

the trick is that they "wrote" the above via voice dictation and their system reads the messages to them using text2speech ;) O:)

Mhm. That I would not doubt for some people.

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Re: Re: Music players
By: calcmandan to The Lizard Master on Fri May 29 2020 05:01 am

Step into the age of the Jetsons whi
you post on a bbs echo. Roger.

All the old things are new again...
they're bringing back minidiscs in a
niche market these days. Go figure.


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Re: Re: Music players
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Rampage on Fri May 29 2020 06:41 am

I'm surprised everyone hasn't
discovered MindBridge(tm) 3000; I ju
think what I'm going to type and it
magically appears on the screen. I
wonder if they can smell that?

Wait a minute.. all of you still have
ogrganic shells? Sheesh. n00bs. Yinz
really should look into living la vida
infomorph, especially these days.


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The Doctor wrote to calcmandan <=-

All the old things are new again...
they're bringing back minidiscs in a
niche market these days. Go figure.

I used to work near the Academy of Art "college" in San Francisco, and I'd love seeing the students wear what I wore in high school in the 80s. Levis 501s, polo shirts with the collars turned up, Vuarnet ski glasses, top
siders or penny loafers...

I'd expect to see Urban Outfitters retromod a walkman case with a MP3
player. They already did with a boom box.


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Re: Re: Music players
By: poindexter FORTRAN to The Doctor on Sat May 30 2020 09:46 am

I used to work near the Academy of Art "college" in San Francisco, and I'd love seeing the students wear what I wore in high school in the 80s. Levis 501s, polo shirts with the collars turned up, Vuarnet ski glasses, top siders or penny loafers...

Things have changed a bit since then. I have not been able to get downtown
for a few months due to the quarantine, but when last I recall it was all skinny jeans, Coasters, and flannel.

I'd expect to see Urban Outfitters retromod a walkman case with a MP3 player. They already did with a boom box.

They probably will at some point. Probably once they get t popular on Etsy; they have a bad reputation (well earned) for stealing independent artists'
work and mass producing it.






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Re: Re: Music players
By: poindexter FORTRAN to The Doctor on Sat May 30 2020 09:46 am

I'd expect to see Urban Outfitters retromod a walkman case with a MP3 player. They already did with a boom box.

I did this myself, when iPODs became popular... used my original walkman i bought from sears; and i THOUGHT i had the coolest loooking iPOD around.

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That sounds interesting, but why not go a couple of other paths?
- MP3 player that looks like a MiniDisc Player
- MP3 player that looks like an 8-track player

:D

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Re: Re: Music players
By: paulie420 to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Jun 01 2020 06:29 pm

I'd expect to see Urban Outfitters retromod a walkman case with a
MP3 player. They already did with a boom box.

I did this myself, when iPODs became popular... used my original walkman i bought from sears; and i THOUGHT i had the coolest loooking iPOD around.

The Diamond Rio was the first MP3 player I remember seeing on the market, and they had one that I thought looked a bit like a walkman:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_500

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Re: Re: Music players
By: Nightfox to paulie420 on Tue Jun 02 2020 03:23 pm

I'd expect to see Urban Outfitters retromod a walkman case with a
MP3 player. They already did with a boom box.

I did this myself, when iPODs became popular... used my original walkman i bought from sears; and i THOUGHT i had the coolest loooking iPOD around.

The Diamond Rio was the first MP3 player I remember seeing on the market, and they had one that I thought looked a bit like a walkman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_500

I owned one because my boss at the time thought it was cool and bought us all one. I used that for a long time, it was great, even if it only held like 8 songs. I recently sold it on ebay becuase why did I still have that thing?

Me and nightfox really on the same page lately.

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Re: Re: Music players
By: The Lizard Master to Nightfox on Tue Jun 02 2020 08:05 pm

Re: Re: Music players
By: Nightfox to paulie420 on Tue Jun 02 2020 03:23 pm

I'd expect to see Urban Outfitters retromod a walkman case with a
MP3 player. They already did with a boom box.

I did this myself, when iPODs became popular... used my original walkman i bought from sears; and i THOUGHT i had the coolest loookin iPOD around.

The Diamond Rio was the first MP3 player I remember seeing on the market, and they had one that I thought looked a bit like a walkman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_500

I owned one because my boss at the time thought it was cool and bought us al

Me and nightfox really on the same page lately.

---TLM

I waited awhile before getting an Mp3 player, and picked up a 1gb usb drive form factor player. it had three butons and tiny display. I plugged it into
a cassete adapter and used it in my S-10.

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Re: Re: Music players
By: Lord Gareth to paulie420 on Tue Jun 02 2020 11:41 am

That sounds interesting, but why not go a couple of other paths?
- MP3 player that looks like a MiniDisc Player
- MP3 player that looks like an 8-track player

:D
:D

record player with a strap on it and you carry it around.

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Hello MRO!

** On Saturday 06.06.20 - 12:50, mro wrote to Lord Gareth:

That sounds interesting, but why not go a couple of other paths?
- MP3 player that looks like a MiniDisc Player
- MP3 player that looks like an 8-track player

:D
:D

record player with a strap on it and you carry it around.

Anyone here remember when certain cars had record players?

I think I was barely 5 yrs old (circa 1963), and an uncle of mine had a convertible with a record player. I think it only played 45s.


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Re: Re: Music players
By: Ogg to All on Sat Jun 06 2020 02:39 pm

record player with a strap on it and you carry it around.

Anyone here remember when certain cars had record players?

I think I was barely 5 yrs old (circa 1963), and an uncle of mine had a convertible with a record player. I think it only played 45s.

I heard some caddy's had them, but never saw one in real life.

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Ogg wrote to All <=-

Hello MRO!

** On Saturday 06.06.20 - 12:50, mro wrote to Lord Gareth:

That sounds interesting, but why not go a couple of other paths?
- MP3 player that looks like a MiniDisc Player
- MP3 player that looks like an 8-track player

:D
:D

record player with a strap on it and you carry it around.

Anyone here remember when certain cars had record players?

I think I was barely 5 yrs old (circa 1963), and an uncle of mine had a convertible with a record player. I think it only played 45s.

I used to joke about putting one in my car. Didn't think anyone actually did it.

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Re: Re: Music players
By: Dennisk to Ogg on Sun Jun 07 2020 10:43 am

Ogg wrote to All <=-

Hello MRO!

** On Saturday 06.06.20 - 12:50, mro wrote to Lord Gareth:

That sounds interesting, but why not go a couple of other paths?
- MP3 player that looks like a MiniDisc Player
- MP3 player that looks like an 8-track player

:D
:D

record player with a strap on it and you carry it around.

Anyone here remember when certain cars had record players?

I think I was barely 5 yrs old (circa 1963), and an uncle of mine had a convertible with a record player. I think it only played 45s.

I used to joke about putting one in my car. Didn't think anyone actually di it.

... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!

My cousins had a portable record player that played full sized LP's. It was close to the size of a full sized cassette recorder (6 inch by 10 inch) and
you had to place it on a level surface because the turntable was the width fo the player and the record would hang over on 3 sides. The side that didn't hang over was where the arm was mounted. It ran on either 4 or 6 D cell batteries.

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Re: Re: Music players
By: Moondog to Dennisk on Sun Jun 07 2020 12:06 am

Re: Re: Music players
By: Dennisk to Ogg on Sun Jun 07 2020 10:43 am

Ogg wrote to All <=-

Hello MRO!

** On Saturday 06.06.20 - 12:50, mro wrote to Lord Gareth:

That sounds interesting, but why not go a couple of other paths?
- MP3 player that looks like a MiniDisc Player
- MP3 player that looks like an 8-track player

:D
:D

record player with a strap on it and you carry it around.

Anyone here remember when certain cars had record players?

I think I was barely 5 yrs old (circa 1963), and an uncle of mine ha convertible with a record player. I think it only played 45s.

I used to joke about putting one in my car. Didn't think anyone actually it.

... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!

My cousins had a portable record player that played full sized LP's. It was close to the size of a full sized cassette recorder (6 inch by 10 inch) and you had to place it on a level surface because the turntable was the width f the player and the record would hang over on 3 sides. The side that didn't hang over was where the arm was mounted. It ran on either 4 or 6 D cell batteries.

My first turntable was my stepdad's old portable turntable. Can't remember
what the model was for the life of me, but I remember it having wood grain
lid that you had to take off entirely if you wanted to play full-size LPs. Audio quality honestly wasn't the worst.

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Hello Dennisk!

** On Saturday 06.06.20 - 20:43, dennisk wrote to Ogg:

Anyone here remember when certain cars had record players?

I think I was barely 5 yrs old (circa 1963), and an uncle of mine had a Og>> convertible with a record player. I think it only played 45s.

I used to joke about putting one in my car. Didn't think anyone actually
did it.

Ah.. you're a young one then. LOL

I've seen a couple of YT videos of "young" people installing LP players in their cars and thinking that is so unique and cool.

But if you keep looking, you will find plenty of references to record
players in some of the cars in the 60's.

There is a vintage car show/gathering in my town once a week during the summer. I never thought of dropping by to see if anyone there still had a working record player. But maybe now I will.

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Ogg wrote to Dennisk <=-

Hello Dennisk!

** On Saturday 06.06.20 - 20:43, dennisk wrote to Ogg:

Anyone here remember when certain cars had record players?

I think I was barely 5 yrs old (circa 1963), and an uncle of mine had a
convertible with a record player. I think it only played 45s.

I used to joke about putting one in my car. Didn't think anyone actually did it.

Ah.. you're a young one then. LOL

I've seen a couple of YT videos of "young" people installing LP players
in their cars and thinking that is so unique and cool.

But if you keep looking, you will find plenty of references to record players in some of the cars in the 60's.

There is a vintage car show/gathering in my town once a week during the summer. I never thought of dropping by to see if anyone there still
had a working record player. But maybe now I will.

I'll have a look into it. It would be interesting to see how they engineered it to stop skipping.


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Dennisk wrote to Ogg <=-

I used to joke about putting one in my car. Didn't think anyone
actually did it.

I couldn't imagine a record skipping any less than an early cd player.

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Hello Dennisk!

** On Sunday 07.06.20 - 22:31, dennisk wrote to Ogg:

I've seen a couple of YT videos of "young" people installing LP
players in their cars and thinking that is so unique and cool.

...BUT, I haven't watched them in their entirety, yet. There are
probably some limitations on how they operate.

There is a vintage car show/gathering in my town once a week during
the summer. I never thought of dropping by to see if anyone there
still had a working record player. But maybe now I will.

I'll have a look into it. It would be interesting to see how they engineered it to stop skipping.

I remember being in my uncle's car. He wrassled up a bunch of his nieces
and nephews and took us for a drive around the city community. No seat-
belts in those days. We wriggled and bounced around and had a blast. He demoed the convertable roof opening and closing a few times. I remember
the record player operating while he was driving. I think the needle was applied with a greater pressure on those players. The neighbourhood roads were fairly smooth.

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I owned one because my boss at the time thought it was cool and bought
us all one. I used that for a long time, it was great, even if it only held like 8 songs. I recently sold it on ebay becuase why did I still have that thing?

I somehow ended up with 3 iPod Nanos, the watch-sized model. I should find a funky watch band and make it my "smart" watch. :)



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Ogg wrote to Dennisk <=-

But if you keep looking, you will find plenty of references to record players in some of the cars in the 60's.

Elvis had one, and I'm sure some of the George Barris creations did, too.

What I want is Brock Yates 1970's Cadillac Eldorado with a fax machine and rotary phone inside. He used it for one of the first Cannonball Run races.




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