Anyone else looking foward to watching the new Star Trek Picard? It starts on Jan 23. It's on CBS all access here in the states
I'm looking forward to it. From the ads, it looks fairly good, and I hope it doesn't disappoint.
worry that means it's "not true Star Trek" or will be as bad as they think Discovery
heard the show involves the Borg, and I'm curious who that mysterious lady is from the ads, and how Data will be appearing in the show (since Data was destroyed in the movie 'Nemesis').I have been curious about a few things also including data. I'm wondering if the android they found on that planet in the Nemesis movie was updated with a backup of data but who knows and I did not hear anything about the borge and i now to wonder about that voice it seems familer...
Ditto, it looks really good from the clippings and I'm hoping it holds up. I'm a fanboy of Patrick Stewart, though, so I am slightly more optimistic. Waiting with fingers crossed :-)
Limping Ninja wrote to Nightfox <=-
Yeah, but I personally don't worry if it is/is not as bad as those
people think. I find the argument tired and it is less 'This is true
Star Trek' then 'This is Nostalgic'. Unpopular opinion: I think the original series was relatively stupid and slapstick-esque for most episodes (not that all series didn't have some bombs).
then 'This is Nostalgic'. Unpopular opinion: I think the original series was relatively stupid and slapstick-esque for most episodes (not that all series didn't have some bombs).
I have been curious about a few things also including data. I'm wondering if the android they found on that planet in the Nemesis movie was updated with a backup of data but who knows and I did not hear anything about the borge and i now to wonder about that voice it seems familer...
Limping Ninja wrote to Nightfox <=-
Yeah, but I personally don't worry if it is/is not as bad as those people think. I find the argument tired and it is less 'This is true Star Trek' then 'This is Nostalgic'. Unpopular opinion: I think the original series was relatively stupid and slapstick-esque for most episodes (not that all series didn't have some bombs).
The show I want to watch? I watched the DVD "What We Left Behind", a documentary about DS9. The writers got together and brainstormed a season 8 of DS9 on camera, and it sounded pretty amazing.
... Do you know where you are?Voyager actor Tim Russ made a low budget concpet for another spinoff series that included several carry over actors from the other Trek franchises. IIRC it can be found on Youtube. The name is Star Trek Renegades. Story line is a bout a terroist cell ooperating in Federation space, and Starfleet does not appear to be interested in pursuing them. A very old Chekov is in charge of
Voyager actor Tim Russ made a low budget concpet for another spinoff series that included several carry over actors from the other Trek franchises. IIRC it can be found on Youtube. The name is Star Trek Renegades. Story line is a bout a terroist cell ooperating in Federation space, and Starfleet does not appear to be interested in pursuing them. A very old Chekov is in charge of a clandestine organization run under the Federation charter, and recruits a combination of Star Fleet and organized criminal assets to follow the prgress of the bad guys.
Anyone else looking foward to watching the new Star Trek Picard? It starts on Jan 23. It's on CBS all access here in the states
it's "not true Star Trek" or will be as bad as they think Discovery is.. I
Voyager actor Tim Russ made a low budget concpet for another spinoff series that included several carry over actors from the other Trek franchises. IIRC it can be found on Youtube. The name is Star Trek Renegades. Story line is a bout a terroist cell ooperating in Federation space, and Starfleet does not appear to be interested in pursuing them. A very old Chekov is in charge of a clandestine organization run under the Federation charter, and recruits a combination of Star Fleet and organized criminal assets to follow the prgress of the bad guys.
it's "not true Star Trek" or will be as bad as they think Discovery
is.. I
You know, that's funny. I've heard a _lot_ of echoes of this sentiment but I found it pretty decent, personally. :P I really like what they did with the Klingon culture, too, instead of just making them humans with different faces that are on too many 'roids.
Anyone else looking foward to watching the new Star Trek Picard? It starts on Jan 23. It's on CBS all access here in the states
Liberated from memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Klingon_Defense_Force:
Re: Star Trek Picard
By: Limping Ninja to Nightfox on Fri Jan 10 2020 03:09 am
then 'This is Nostalgic'. Unpopular opinion: I think the original serie was relatively stupid and slapstick-esque for most episodes (not that a series didn't have some bombs).
I tend to prefer TNG and the later series too. I haven't even seen all of T
Nightfox
Re: Re: Star Trek Picard
By: Moondog to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jan 10 2020 01:57 pm
Voyager actor Tim Russ made a low budget concpet for another spinoff series that included several carry over actors from the other Trek franchises. IIRC it can be found on Youtube. The name is Star Trek Renegades. Story line is a bout a terroist cell ooperating in Federatio space, and Starfleet does not appear to be interested in pursuing them. very old Chekov is in charge of a clandestine organization run under th Federation charter, and recruits a combination of Star Fleet and organi criminal assets to follow the prgress of the bad guys.
Some of the same actors (and others) also did another rogue Star Trek produc
Nightfox
One thing that bugged me about the Axanar thing was that when Paramount re-d
fan films. I'd think the labor board would find that as unenforceable as a
I enjoy watching Discovery, but I've had a hard time with the Klingons in Di Trek. From just their appearance, I don't really see how they could go from n Picture in 1979 - which is also how the Next Generation Klingons looked),
was that the 'newer' Klingons from The Motion Picture / TNG was how they lo lingons. Now they've complicated things again..
Nightfox
Since Memory Beta states specifically at the top that it is "Non-Canon" and Memory Alpha does not, does that mean that Memory Alpha IS canon?
And if it is, and I was directed to the Memory Beta article BY Memory Alpha, what does THAT say about canon?
And of course with all off JJ's medling and screwing with the timelines, what really IS canon anymore?
Both series were about the human condition, however TNG was able to strecth into grey areas where there was no cut and dried answer to a problem.TOS once was scolded by the network for an episode where Kirk revisited a primitive planet where lack of technological superiority by any side kept the peace, only to find out the Klingons were upsetting the balance by supplying weapons and technology. Kirk's ultimate decision was to work around loopholes in the Prime Directive and supply the other side through a cold war. The network was pissed because they preferred their news branch to be the only source of Vietnam war editorial,and they got away by placing it in a fantasy context.
Quite a mess. I recall Roddenberry explaining why he added the ridges was because he wished he had the makeup to do so in the first place.
On 01-10-20 16:58, Sprite wrote to Brokenmind <=-
Jan 23rd isn't too far away now, either. Woo! I've been out of
media for awhile now I've got Doctor Who and Picard in the same season!
On 01-12-20 12:14, Nightfox wrote to Lupine Furmen <=-
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Re: Memory Beta / Alpha
By: Lupine Furmen to Nightfox on Sat Jan 11 2020 06:15 pm
Since Memory Beta states specifically at the top that it is "Non-Canon" and Memory Alpha does not, does that mean that Memory Alpha IS canon?
My understanding is that anything officially produced by the owners of
the Star Trek franchise/copyright is canon, and that includes the JJ Abrams movies. The JJ Abrams movies aren't someone's fan fiction,
they're official Star Trek productions.
Star Trek always tried to use its medium to make political and social points also like the stories that are more about science and exploration.
Nightfox
Moondog wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
There is a re-edit of Renegades out there where Tim Russ went back and changed character names, and altered all Trek universe references. It
was butchered.
Moondog wrote to Nightfox <=-
Quite a mess. I recall Roddenberry explaining why he added the ridges
was because he wished he had the makeup to do so in the first place.
Nightfox wrote to Moondog <=-
Yeah, I remember reading that. I suppose it makes sense. I wouldn't expect all alien species to look so much like humans. Even with all
they did to make alien species in TNG & DS9 look different, they still looked largely like humans - Similar height & shape, etc..
Moondog wrote to Nightfox <=-
Seen it. While it was alright, there's much better fan fiction out
there such as continuing Voyages and Phase Two.
They did a remarkable retcon job in the TNG episode "The Chase". All of the races of known space had been seeded by an ancient race with their DNA, and so we all look like them. I guess they missed Tholia.
On 01-14-20 15:13, Chickenhead wrote to Lupine Furmen <=-
Picard looked interesting from the initial teasers but the recent stuff from Patrick Stewart saying the show would "take on" Trump and Brexit well...you lost me there. I want science fiction FAR removed from
today's morality stories. This should be about the Federation post-TNG...I want to see Soong's legacy (which looks to be there) and where they ended up with the Borg threat.
I've been working my way through The Expanse and damn it...that's
science fiction. They have me hook-line-and-sinker. You just have to slog through the first half of Season 1 to get there...after that it
takes off.
Doctor Who has utterly lost me. Well to be honest they lost me in Capaldi's final season. Thank god I've got all of Tom Baker's years on DVD.
Moondog wrote to Nightfox <=-
Quite a mess. I recall Roddenberry explaining why he added the ridges was because he wished he had the makeup to do so in the first place.
I wonder if the new makeup and prosthetics are changing the way Klingon sounds in canon - they sound much more muffled and like they're talking through a thick layer of latex - which they are. Not that I mind, however. It's supposed to have been built up with different sounds than Federation standard.
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Moondog wrote to Nightfox <=-
Seen it. While it was alright, there's much better fan fiction out there such as continuing Voyages and Phase Two.
The early Phase II stuff (forget what they called it) with James Frawley as Kirk really captured the essence of TOS Season 4 they had envisioned.
... Emphasize the flaws
2019-2020 is shaping up to be one of the best years for SF in a long time. We have Discovery, Picard, The Expanse, Lost in Space and the new season of Dr Who around. Certainly a much better situation than the mid-late 2010s, when things dried up for a bit.
well...you lost me there. I want science fiction FAR removed from today's morality stories. This should be about the Federation post-TNG...I want to
On 01-15-20 13:00, Sprite wrote to Vk3jed <=-
:D Yeah I just started watching the new season of Dr. Who, too.
Good times! I did stop watching the Expanse awhile ago after maybe the first half of the first season or so. I was too distracted by other things at the time. Maybe I should pick that up again, I've heard it's very much worth it.
How is Lost in Space?
I've been working my way through The Expanse and damn it...that's science ficti
n. They have me hook-line-and-sinker. You just have to slog through the first
half of Season 1 to get there...after that it takes off.
Doctor Who has utterly lost me. Well to be honest they lost me in Capaldi's fi
al season. Thank god I've got all of Tom Baker's years on DVD.
I had the impression was that the 'newer' Klingons from The Motion Picture / TNG was how they looked orgiinally, and then they experimented with the super-human DNA from the eugenics wars, making them look more human, and eventually they went back to looking like original Klingons. Now they've complicated things again..
This pretty much explains the differences in apearance. I remember in one episode (I think it was DS9:Trials and Tribbelations) when they encountered the TOS versions Worf simplay stated that they "Don't talk about them." -+-
:D Yeah I just started watching the new season of Dr. Who, too. Good times!
I did stop watching the Expanse awhile ago after maybe the first half of the fi
st season or so. I was too distracted by other things at the time. Maybe I sh
uld pick that up again, I've heard it's very much worth it.
Moondog wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
The There is a nose prosthetic bridged by a forehead prosthetic. The lispy voice comes form wearing a set of false teeth covers. I recall seeing Armin S himmerman (Quark) at a convention, and he mentioned how
an hour's worth of filming had to be thrown out because he forgot to
put his teeth appliance in.
Moondog wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Before Cawley passed the torch over to the guy who does the Naruto
voice acting, one of the extra new characters was Peter Kirk, Jim's nephew. I can imagine this addition was based on Gene's various notes.
An ensign that happens to be the captain's nephew sounds like the inspiration for Wesley Crusher in TNG.
I'm looking forward to it. From the ads, it looks fairly good, and I hope it doesn't disappoint. I've seen talk online recently that Patrick Stewart has said "the world of The Next Generation no longer exists" and it will be a darker show, and people are commenting that they worry that means it's "not true Star Trek" or will be as bad as they think Discovery is.. I still have hopes it will be a good show, and I want to wait and see. I've heard the show involves the Borg, and I'm curious who that mysterious lady is from the ads, and how Data will be appearing in the show (since Data was destroyed in the movie 'Nemesis').
Nightfox
Moondog wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Before Cawley passed the torch over to the guy who does the Naruto voice acting, one of the extra new characters was Peter Kirk, Jim's nephew. I can imagine this addition was based on Gene's various notes.
An ensign that happens to be the captain's nephew sounds like the inspiration for Wesley Crusher in TNG.
Wasn't he on Deneva in TOS? That planet that was attacked by the flying egg monsters?
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