Recently I picked up a book some of you may have heard of called "Algorithms to Live By". One of the problems (and thus an exploration of algorithms to solve such a problem) described is the explore/exploit problem.

This is the "should we go to our favorite resturant or try something new" problem. Without getting too much into the algorithms described in the chapter (which would be off topic) one example used was the film industry.

Essentially, the section stated that in general one tends to favor exploit (use what you know) over explore (try something new) when nearing the end of being able to avail yourself of all choices. For example if you plan on moving out of the city soon you're much more likely to go with resturants that you know rather than trying something new.

Anyway the book stated that the film industry fits into this pattern in that over the last two decades there's been a lot more exploiting (sequils and prequils) rather than exploring (new stories).

I've felt for a long time that the film industry has been in a steady decline and I started to think that I've always taken it for granted that it would just keep being there doing what it's doing. But then again a lot of things I've taken as a constant turned out not to be.

I always assumed that big shopping malls were just a fact of life, but of course there hasn't always been shopping malls and now they are in steep decline. I`ve always assumed that record labels and book publishers would be the final deciders of what musicians and novelists would have their works exposed to the general public but of course there haven`t always been record labels or book publishers and now it`s easier to self publish rather than going through a publisher so those industries are on their way out as well.

So why wouldn't large film production companies be next? They are unwilling to risk trying anything new, they are almost entirely focused on exploit rather than explore, hardly anyone goes to the theater anymore and quite honestly the last few times I did it was a regretful experience.

Of course there`s a lot more inertia there due to a few facts:

For one thing making a film requires skilled and talented actors and although some skilled actors might be found at your local playhouse those skills may not necessarily lend itself to film.

Also making a good film is hard and requires a lot of time, effort, and skill by a team of people.

So I'm left wondering. If the "Hollywood" model of film making is in decline and on the way out (albeit slowly) and the hurtles that home-town movie producers have to overcome to fill that niche are still too great, what will we see next?

Obviously from the established film studios yet more exploit and less exploration but I feel like another niche is opening up there somewhere, something Hollywood doesn`t want to do and our hometown producers can`t do.

It might be more computer generated movies or animated (using home computers) because this is a way to put story to film which doesn't require finding and paying actors. But for actual live-action films are we just stuck with (insert your favorite franchise from the 80's/90's here)++ ?

What new technologies need be invented, or made more accessible, for a middle-class aspiring film maker to take a new, original idea, from mind to silver screen? Will there even be a silver screen? Will movie watching be almost exclusivly done in private in home?

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Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Divarin to All on Sun Nov 08 2020 08:05 am

Recently I picked up a book some of you may have heard of called "Algorithms to Live By". One of the problems (and thus an exploration of

you read?

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Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Divarin to All on Sun Nov 08 2020 08:05 am

What new technologies need be invented, or made more accessible, for a middle-class aspiring film maker to take a new, original idea, from mind to silver screen? Will there even be a silver screen? Will movie watching be almost exclusivly done in private in home?

There are great films that use a single room and a dozen actors for production. With a decent plot you can do great films for cheap.

Twelve Angry Men (the Henry Fonda one), ARQ, The Exam, Infinity Chamber, Cube. Not a big deal of special effects or action stunts. Plots and characters you care for.

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Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: MRO to Divarin on Sun Nov 08 2020 17:46:47

you read?

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Because I read this book specifically or because I read in general?

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Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Arelor to Divarin on Mon Nov 09 2020 09:56 am

Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Divarin to All on Sun Nov 08 2020 08:05 am

What new technologies need be invented, or made more accessible, for a
middle-class aspiring film maker to take a new, original idea, from
mind to silver screen? Will there even be a silver screen? Will
movie watching be almost exclusivly done in private in home?

There are great films that use a single room and a dozen actors for production. With a decent plot you can do great films for cheap.

Twelve Angry Men (the Henry Fonda one), ARQ, The Exam, Infinity Chamber, Cube. Not a big deal of special effects or action stunts. Plots and characters you care for.

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Divarin wrote to All <=-

What new technologies need be invented, or made more accessible, for a middle-class aspiring film maker to take a new, original idea, from
mind to silver screen? Will there even be a silver screen? Will movie watching be almost exclusivly done in private in home?

I'd love to see an indie channel on Roku or cable. Imagine a place to
showcase independent, low-budget or crowdfunded films? I'd bookmark
that.



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Arelor wrote to Divarin <=-

There are great films that use a single room and a dozen actors for production. With a decent plot you can do great films for cheap.

Look at plays adapted to tv/film for a great example of that. David
Mamet's "Oleanna" and Edward Albee's "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf"
come to mind.

Although, Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor didn't come cheap!

FAIL-SAFE was a book made into a movie in 1964 that was mostly set in
a bunker with Henry Fonda and Larry Hagman.

I've been thinking about how venues could adapt to Covid. When you
can't fill a venue past 25%, you can't book the same acts you used to
book. I wonder if there might be a venue for independent stage
productions that wouldn't have normally had the opportunity, blended
streaming/live performances, or some way to market local (cheaper)
talent.



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Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: MRO to Arelor on Mon Nov 09 2020 10:06 pm

There are great films that use a single room and a dozen actors for production. With a decent plot you can do great films for cheap.

Twelve Angry Men (the Henry Fonda one)

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Divarin on Mon Nov 09 2020 07:18 am

What new technologies need be invented, or made more accessible, for a middle-class aspiring film maker to take a new, original idea, from
mind to silver screen? Will there even be a silver screen? Will movie watching be almost exclusivly done in private in home?

Well, ever since I began getting HBO (many years ago) I never saw any point in going to the theatre. When a movie comes out that the Big Screen is a must then I'll go. Other then that I enjoy lying on the couch when I watch a movie.

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Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: HusTler to Arelor on Tue Nov 10 2020 02:17 pm

Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: MRO to Arelor on Mon Nov 09 2020 10:06 pm

There are great films that use a single room and a dozen actors for production. With a decent plot you can do great films for cheap.

Twelve Angry Men (the Henry Fonda one)

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Did you know that the director made the walls come a bit closer each scene, in order to make the room more opressive as the plot developed?



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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: HusTler to Divarin on Tue Nov 10 2020 02:26 pm

Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Divarin on Mon Nov 09 2020 07:18 am

What new technologies need be invented, or made more accessible, for a middle-class aspiring film maker to take a new, original idea, from
mind to silver screen? Will there even be a silver screen? Will movie watching be almost exclusivly done in private in home?

Well, ever since I began getting HBO (many years ago) I never saw any point in going to the theatre. When a movie comes out that the Big Screen is a must then I'll go. Other then that I
enjoy lying on the couch when I watch a movie.

... I never knew a girl who was ruined by a good book.

When they played movies I cared for in the theatre, I think it ws worth it. You went out with friends and had dinner out after the movie was finished.

Theatres are becoming harder to justify as movies get worse, politically loaded, and people takes spoiled kids into the cinema to ruin the play for everybody. Which sucks because I miss the
experience a bit.
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Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Arelor to HusTler on Tue Nov 10 2020 06:04 pm

There are great films that use a single room and a dozen actors for production. With a decent plot you can do great films for cheap.

Twelve Angry Men (the Henry Fonda one)

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Great FlicK!

Did you know that the director made the walls come a bit closer each scene, order to make the room more opressive as the plot developed?

No I didn't but will be more aware of it next time I watch it. I do know the intensity builds a lot so it makes sense that the walls appear closer. Another "Intensity technique" used by directors. ;-)

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HusTler wrote to Divarin <=-

Well, ever since I began getting HBO (many years ago) I never saw
any point in going to the theatre. When a movie comes out that the Big Screen is a must then I'll go. Other then that I enjoy lying on the
couch when I watch a movie.

I saw 1917 and Dunkirk in IMAX; they were so worth it. Rewatching on a
55" TV didn't do them justice.. But, watching a rom-com with someone
talking through the movie and crinkling a dollar-tree bag of candy in
my ear, no thanks.



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Did you know that the director made the walls come a bit closer each scene, in order to make the room more opressive as the plot developed?

I've got to watch that now.


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Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Arelor to Divarin on Mon Nov 09 2020 09:56:23

There are great films that use a single room and a dozen actors for producti With a decent plot you can do great films for cheap.

Twelve Angry Men (the Henry Fonda one), ARQ, The Exam, Infinity Chamber, Cub Not a big deal of special effects or action stunts. Plots and characters you care for.

Yeah I can see if independant film makers become more popular due to less expensive technology and big film production companies being unwilling to try new things we can see some new and interesting stories being made with less flash and effects. Low-tech, simple, but enjoyable.

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: poindexter FORTRAN to HusTler on Wed Nov 11 2020 06:33 am

I saw 1917 and Dunkirk in IMAX; they were so worth it. Rewatching on a
55" TV didn't do them justice.. But, watching a rom-com with someone
talking through the movie and crinkling a dollar-tree bag of candy in
my ear, no thanks.

Yea I saw both but on my PC. I'll bet it were wicked on IMAX. Have you been to a theatre since COVID began? How do they arrange the seating? Are they even open?

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: poindexter FORTRAN to HusTler on Wed Nov 11 2020 06:33 am

I saw 1917 and Dunkirk in IMAX; they were so worth it. Rewatching on a
55" TV didn't do them justice.. But, watching a rom-com with someone talking through the movie and crinkling a dollar-tree bag of candy in
my ear, no thanks.

Yea I saw both but on my PC. I'll bet they were wicked on IMAX. Have you been to a theatre since COVID began? How do they arrange the seating? Are they even
open?

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: HusTler to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Nov 11 2020 01:55 pm

Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: poindexter FORTRAN to HusTler on Wed Nov 11 2020 06:33 am

I saw 1917 and Dunkirk in IMAX; they were so worth it. Rewatching on a
55" TV didn't do them justice.. But, watching a rom-com with someone
talking through the movie and crinkling a dollar-tree bag of candy in
my ear, no thanks.

Yea I saw both but on my PC. I'll bet they were wicked on IMAX. Have you been to a theatre since COVID began? How do they arrange the seating? Are they even open?

i think marcus theaters do plexiglass. i want my own little cubicle anyways. i always get stinky people or loud people. i want to be able to kick back and snooze.

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: MRO to HusTler on Wed Nov 11 2020 06:14 pm

i think marcus theaters do plexiglass. i want my own little cubicle anyways i always get stinky people or loud people. i want to be able to kick back an snooze.

You want to sleep through a movie you paid for? I was talking to a friend about this today but he hadn't been to an IMAX in 2 years. He couldn't tell me exactly what they were doing to keep people at a distance. He said they leave it up to the people themselves. That didn't sound right to me. Most people are a-holes. Although if you saw the Notredame game you could see that for yourself. All 100,000 of them. ;-)

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Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Coolbeans to Arelor on Wed Nov 11 2020 10:49 am

Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Arelor to Divarin on Mon Nov 09 2020 09:56:23

There are great films that use a single room and a dozen actors for produ With a decent plot you can do great films for cheap.

Twelve Angry Men (the Henry Fonda one), ARQ, The Exam, Infinity Chamber, Not a big deal of special effects or action stunts. Plots and characters care for.

Yeah I can see if independant film makers become more popular due to less expensive technology and big film production companies being unwilling to tr new things we can see some new and interesting stories being made with less flash and effects. Low-tech, simple, but enjoyable.

A good story is important, as is being familiar with lighting techniques and camera angles. Several years ago I began watching Star Trek fan fic films,
and the quality varies. Vic Mignogna's productions are on the better end, mainly because he knows how to frame shots and light the sets ands actors
like they did with TOS. Tim Russ has been able to bring in acting buddies om his projects, however the pacing and camera angles aren't quite right

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HusTler wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Yea I saw both but on my PC. I'll bet it were wicked on IMAX. Have
you been to a theatre since COVID began? How do they arrange the
seating? Are they even open?

I'm sure they're blocking off seats to limit capacity.

My counties just went into the higher restriction tier (again), so no
movies for a while. Haircuts, either - and I need one desperately!

At least we all have toilet paper this time.




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Moondog wrote to Coolbeans <=-

A good story is important, as is being familiar with lighting
techniques and camera angles. Several years ago I began watching Star Trek fan fic films, and the quality varies. Vic Mignogna's productions are on the better end, mainly because he knows how to frame shots and light the sets ands actors like they did with TOS.

He and Frawley are making homages to the original productions, which
is nice - the lighting on the eyes especially reminded me of the
original series. Having the TOS bridge duplicated is nice, too.

There's a 3d company called Jaunt VR that's doing some interesting
work with 360 degree cameras in live action events - imagine a VR
Safari.

They also had cinematic efforts - one was a murder mystery, where you
were immersed into the environment. Instead of relying on the
director's framing, you could walk and look around the scene. It was
definitely early stages, but felt like where things would be going in
20 years.






Tim Russ has been

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: poindexter FORTRAN to HusTler on Thu Nov 12 2020 06:30 am

My counties just went into the higher restriction tier (again), so no
movies for a while. Haircuts, either - and I need one desperately!

At least we all have toilet paper this time.

Have you tried cutting your own hair with a set of clippers? I've been doing it since we had our initial hard lockdown in March and haven't bothered going back to the barbers. I've learned how to do a basic fade and also how to cut the top of my hair with scissors. I now cut my hair once each week and it looks no worse than when I had it cut professionally... and I can do it more often. I save a lot of money (50 dollars per month) and no longer have to travel!

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Andeddu to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Nov 13 2020 12:36 pm

Have you tried cutting your own hair with a set of clippers? I've been doing it since we had our initial hard lockdown in March and haven't bothered going back to the barbers.

Funny, I haven't heard them called "barbers" here since maybe the late 80s or early 90s.. It seemed there was a transition phase when traditional barber shops here were replaced with hair salons (such as SuperCuts, GreatClips, etc.), which also seemed to charge more money. All I want is a basic haircut, which is what I usually get. I don't feel like I need any hair gel or hairspray or anything else they want to offer.

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Have you tried cutting your own hair with a set of clippers? I've been doing it since we had our initial hard lockdown in March and haven't bothered going back to the barbers.

No, I haven't. I've got a thick mop of hair that gives hairdressers
fits the first time they try to cut it. If I do a clipper cut, it
stands straight up.

I had a flat-top in the 90s, can attest.


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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: HusTler to MRO on Wed Nov 11 2020 10:48 pm

Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: MRO to HusTler on Wed Nov 11 2020 06:14 pm

i think marcus theaters do plexiglass. i want my own little cubicle
anyways i always get stinky people or loud people. i want to be able
to kick back an snooze.

You want to sleep through a movie you paid for? I was talking to a friend about this today but he hadn't been to an IMAX in 2 years. He couldn't tell me exactly what they were doing to keep people at a distance. He said they leave it up to the people themselves. That didn't sound right to me. Most people are a-holes. Although if you saw the Notredame game you could see that for yourself. All 100,000 of them. ;-)

I Fall asleep at most movies nowadays because they are so freaking long.

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Andeddu to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Nov 13 2020 12:36 pm

doing it since we had our initial hard lockdown in March and haven't bothered going back to the barbers. I've learned how to do a basic fade and also how to cut the top of my hair with scissors. I now cut my hair once each week and it looks no worse than when I had it cut professionally... and I can do it more often. I save a lot of money (50 dollars per month) and no longer have to travel!

what i have problems with is doing the back of my neck straight across. i usually put take across and use that as a guide. i screwed up big today and had to take off a lot of hair and fade it.

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: MRO to HusTler on Sat Nov 14 2020 12:32 am

You want to sleep through a movie you paid for? I was talking to a

I Fall asleep at most movies nowadays because they are so freaking long.

Must be watching some pretty boring movies ;-)

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Nightfox to Andeddu on Fri Nov 13 2020 08:17 am

Funny, I haven't heard them called "barbers" here since maybe the late 80s or early 90s.. It seemed there was a transition phase when traditional barber shops here were replaced with hair salons (such as SuperCuts, GreatClips, etc.), which also seemed to charge more money. All I want is a basic haircut, which is what I usually get. I don't feel like I need any hair gel or hairspray or anything else they want to offer.

We tend to describe them as hair salons here if the establishment caters towards females or are for mixed sexes. The place I went to was more of a hair salon as they catered to people who were after technical haircuts, and they charge a lot more than an ordinary barber. A haircut from a standard barber here costs between 10-14 USD whereas if you go to a salon, you're paying twice as much.

I use a lot of product on my hair. The back and sides are short/faded and the top is around 2.5 inches long. I use powder dust to add some weight and dry it out before blow drying and thereafter shaping it before using 4/5 strength hairspray. I use other products also along with clay and gel-spray but that depends on the circumstances.

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Andeddu on Fri Nov 13 2020 07:00 am

No, I haven't. I've got a thick mop of hair that gives hairdressers
fits the first time they try to cut it. If I do a clipper cut, it
stands straight up.

I had a flat-top in the 90s, can attest.

I have longer hair at the top (around 2.5 inches) and very short back and sides. I style with product and a hair dryer. I always cut the top of my hair with scissors because if I run a set of clippers through it, it would end up too short and I wouldn't be able to style it.

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: MRO to Andeddu on Sat Nov 14 2020 12:34 am

doing it since we had our initial hard lockdown in March and haven't bothered going back to the barbers. I've learned how to do a basic fade and also how to cut the top of my hair with scissors. I now cut my hair once each week and it looks no worse than when I had it cut professionally... and I can do it more often. I save a lot of money (50 dollars per month) and no longer have to travel!

what i have problems with is doing the back of my neck straight across. i usually put take across and use that as a guide. i screwed up big today and had to take off a lot of hair and fade it.

That sounds very difficult to do on your own with a mirror against another mirror. I don't have a straight line at the back of my neck. The natural hairline around by neck is curved like a semi-circle so it's easy for me to do.

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Andeddu to Nightfox on Sat Nov 14 2020 01:38 pm

We tend to describe them as hair salons here if the establishment caters towards females or are for mixed sexes. The place I went to was more of a hair salon as they catered to people who were after technical haircuts, and they charge a lot more than an ordinary barber. A haircut from a standard barber here costs between 10-14 USD whereas if you go to a salon, you're paying twice as much.

I've found it's rare to see a more traditional barber shop in my area anymore. They're usually hair salons, and a haircut usually costs about $15-$17 USD. I remember when you could get a haircut for around $8 to $10, but that was a long time ago.

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Nightfox to Andeddu on Sat Nov 14 2020 08:12 am

Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Andeddu to Nightfox on Sat Nov 14 2020 01:38 pm

We tend to describe them as hair salons here if the establishment cater towards females or are for mixed sexes. The place I went to was more of hair salon as they catered to people who were after technical haircuts, and they charge a lot more than an ordinary barber. A haircut from a standard barber here costs between 10-14 USD whereas if you go to a sal you're paying twice as much.

I've found it's rare to see a more traditional barber shop in my area anymor They're usually hair salons, and a haircut usually costs about $15-$17 USD. remember when you could get a haircut for around $8 to $10, but that was a l time ago.

Nightfox

I just use a hair clipper and trim my hair marine style.
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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Nightfox to Andeddu on Sat Nov 14 2020 08:12 am

I've found it's rare to see a more traditional barber shop in my area anymore. They're usually hair salons, and a haircut usually costs about $15-$17 USD. I remember when you could get a haircut for around $8 to $10, but that was a long time ago.

hair stylists do just that. style hair. barbers are better.

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Nightfox to Andeddu on Sat Nov 14 2020 08:12 am

I've found it's rare to see a more traditional barber shop in my area anymore. They're usually hair salons, and a haircut usually costs about $15-$17 USD. I remember when you could get a haircut for around $8 to $10, but that was a long time ago.

Salons seem to crop up wherever I look. We have many Turkish barber shops in our country though. I think there's around 3-4 where I live along with one native English barber shop.

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Andeddu to Nightfox on Sun Nov 15 2020 01:24 pm

Salons seem to crop up wherever I look. We have many Turkish barber shops in our country though. I think there's around 3-4 where I live along with one native English barber shop.

Does anyone else find that all the salons in their city suddenly started having "no pets allowed" signs posted on them? Like, all at once?

Did something happen nation-wide that I missed?

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: deepthaw to Andeddu on Sun Nov 15 2020 09:48 am

Salons seem to crop up wherever I look. We have many Turkish barber
shops in our country though. I think there's around 3-4 where I live
along with one native English barber shop.

Does anyone else find that all the salons in their city suddenly started having "no pets allowed" signs posted on them? Like, all at once?

Did something happen nation-wide that I missed?

I've never really seen anyone bring pets into hair salons where I live.. I'd think there could potentially be issues with bringing dogs in - What if a dog suddenly barks loud, startling one of the hair stylists, causigng them to accidentally poke their customer with a pair of scissors? It probably wouldn't be very common, but I could see something like that potentially happening.

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I've found it's rare to see a more traditional barber shop in my area
anymore. They're usually hair salons, and a haircut usually costs about >Ni> $15-$17 USD. I remember when you could get a haircut for around $8 to $10, >Ni> but that was a long time ago.

hair stylists do just that. style hair. barbers are better.

Correct. Barbers have to be proficient at a wider variety of things in
order to get their license, at least in my state they do.


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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun Nov 15 2020 10:11 am

I've found it's rare to see a more traditional barber shop in my

area Ni> anymore. They're usually hair salons, and a haircut usually
costs about Ni> $15-$17 USD. I remember when you could get a haircut
for around $8 to $10, Ni> but that was a long time ago.

hair stylists do just that. style hair. barbers are better.

Correct. Barbers have to be proficient at a wider variety of things in order to get their license, at least in my state they do.

barbers normally have a lot of experience when a hair stylist can have any range of experience down to nothing.

in my state they are making barbers get certifications and most of those cover hair dying which is a stylist thing.

it costs them a lot of money and it's a hassle.

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: deepthaw to Andeddu on Sun Nov 15 2020 09:48 am

Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Andeddu to Nightfox on Sun Nov 15 2020 01:24 pm

Salons seem to crop up wherever I look. We have many Turkish barber sho in our country though. I think there's around 3-4 where I live along wi one native English barber shop.

Does anyone else find that all the salons in their city suddenly started hav

Did something happen nation-wide that I missed?

I have never seen a barber shop or hair stylist that does allow pets. I
figure an animal that may have fleas or lice shouldn't be around a place with hair all over the place. The pet might bring something it didn't have, too!

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: deepthaw to Andeddu on Sun Nov 15 2020 09:48 am

Does anyone else find that all the salons in their city suddenly started having "no pets allowed" signs posted on them? Like, all at once?

Did something happen nation-wide that I missed?

I don't know... can pets get the coronavirus now? It's a ridiculous ask which will just result in fewer customers.

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Andeddu to deepthaw on Mon Nov 16 2020 11:04 am

I don't know... can pets get the coronavirus now? It's a ridiculous ask which will just result in fewer customers.

Months ago, I heard of a case where they found a cat was carrying the coronavirus.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Andeddu to deepthaw on Mon Nov 16 2020 11:04 am

I don't know... can pets get the coronavirus now? It's a ridiculous ask whic will just result in fewer customers.

I saw a TV show that stated cats and dogs can get the coronavirus.

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Andeddu to deepthaw on Mon Nov 16 2020 11:04:31

I don't know... can pets get the coronavirus now? It's a ridiculous ask whic will just result in fewer customers.

Not sure if you're being facetious or not here, but some of them actually can, unfortunately.

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Nightfox to Andeddu on Mon Nov 16 2020 08:31 am

Months ago, I heard of a case where they found a cat was carrying the coronavirus.

The PCR tests aren't exactly reliable. I've heard of people testing their dogs and plants, etc... sending away their samples and returning with a postive result.

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On 11/14/2020 9:12 AM, Nightfox wrote:

I've found it's rare to see a more traditional barber shop in my area anymore. They're usually hair salons, and a haircut usually costs about $15-$17 USD. I remember when you could get a haircut for around $8 to $10, but that was a long time ago.

There's barber shops around the Phoenix area, but they're all around $20
and in some areas slightly more. If course, now that most of my hair is
gone, I just use the trimmers on the whole thing and about half the time followup with an electric razer.

A proper shaved head is a bit more expensive still.

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On 11/15/2020 9:48 AM, Nightfox wrote:

Does anyone else find that all the salons in their city suddenly started
having "no pets allowed" signs posted on them? Like, all at once?

Did something happen nation-wide that I missed?

I've never really seen anyone bring pets into hair salons where I live..
I'd think there could potentially be issues with bringing dogs in - What
if a dog suddenly barks loud, startling one of the hair stylists,
causigng them to accidentally poke their customer with a pair of
scissors? It probably wouldn't be very common, but I could see
something like that potentially happening.

Ask for bangs, lose an eye...

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Hello Arelor!

** On Saturday 14.11.20 - 12:43, arelor wrote to Nightfox:

I've found it's rare to see a more traditional barber shop in my area
anymor They're usually hair salons, and a haircut usually costs about
$15-$17 USD. remember when you could get a haircut for around $8 to $10,
but that was a l time ago.

I just use a hair clipper and trim my hair marine style.

Moi aussi. No point paying $15-$20 (I'd throw in a $5 tip if
the operation went smoothly) for essentially a buzz cut every
few weeks. BUT, part of the experience of visiting the barber
is the social component, making connections, and supporting
other local business. My barber would talk about books and
even redirect people to my shop when he could find an
opportunity to educate a new captive in his chair.

"Hey.. did you know there is this cool guy in town who writes sci-fi/adventure fantasy and he raises horses and has 6
rotties under total control? Here's his card.."

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On 19 Nov 2020, Ogg said the following...

"Hey.. did you know there is this cool guy in town who writes sci-fi/adventure fantasy and he raises horses and has 6
rotties under total control? Here's his card.."

I'm not sure if I would or wouldn't want to run into him in a dark alley... ;)

Jay

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Warpslide to Ogg on Thu Nov 19 2020 11:37 am

On 19 Nov 2020, Ogg said the following...

"Hey.. did you know there is this cool guy in town who writes sci-fi/adventure fantasy and he raises horses and has 6
rotties under total control? Here's his card.."

I'm not sure if I would or wouldn't want to run into him in a dark alley...

Jay

... A horse is a very stable animal

I have mentioned in another echo, but back in the day, gypsy gansters crossed the streets because they didn't want to be near that guy. Most likely because he had a long, dirty scruffy beard that made him look like an Islamist suicidal terrorist.

Horses loved that beard though. They would cling to it and would not release until they had received their share of petting.
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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: HusTler to MRO on Wed Nov 11 2020 10:48 pm

You want to sleep through a movie you paid for? I was talking to a friend about this today but he hadn't been to an IMAX in 2 years.

I only ever went to the movies when I still went on dates. Without someone else, that shit is depressing and expensive. I can just pirate it, stay home, eat anything I already have, and do all the drugs I want.

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Hello Arelor!

** On Thursday 19.11.20 - 12:06, arelor wrote to Warpslide:

"Hey.. did you know there is this cool guy in town who
writes sci-fi/adventure fantasy and he raises horses
and has 6 rotties under total control? Here's his
card.."

I'm not sure if I would or wouldn't want to run into him in
a dark alley...

I have mentioned in another echo, but back in the day, gypsy
gansters crossed the streets because they didn't want to be
near that guy. Most likely because he had a long, dirty
scruffy beard that made him look like an Islamist suicidal
terrorist.

Change the tiger tattoo to a stallion, this could be a
depiction of Arelor on a good prowling day:

http://pics.rsh.ru/img/areloronagoodday_owmi1jmt.jpg

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Vlk-451 to HusTler on Fri Nov 20 2020 07:30:18

I only ever went to the movies when I still went on dates. Without someone else, that shit is depressing and expensive. I can just pirate it, stay home, eat anything I already have, and do all the drugs I want.

I can't wait to return to those days. Kudos to you, keep up the good fight!

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Sprite to Vlk-451 on Sat Nov 21 2020 05:24 am

I only ever went to the movies when I still went on dates. Without
someone else, that shit is depressing and expensive. I can just
pirate it, stay home, eat anything I already have, and do all the

I don't really mind going to the theater by myself. I've done it a few times. I don't think it's depressing. Sometimes I've just wanted to see a movie.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Nightfox to Vlk-451 on Sat Nov 21 2020 10:49 am

Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Sprite to Vlk-451 on Sat Nov 21 2020 05:24 am

I only ever went to the movies when I still went on dates. Without
someone else, that shit is depressing and expensive. I can just
pirate it, stay home, eat anything I already have, and do all the

I don't really mind going to the theater by myself. I've done it a few times. I don't think it's depressing. Sometimes I've just wanted to see a movie.

Nightfox

yeah, but you look pathetic to everyone else!

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Hello MRO!

** On Saturday 21.11.20 - 16:46, mro wrote to Nightfox:

I don't really mind going to the theater by myself. I've
done it a few times. I don't think it's depressing.
Sometimes I've just wanted to see a movie.

yeah, but you look pathetic to everyone else!
wonk wonnnnnk

That's your perception. But I have seen many people attend
repertoire theatres, single, simply because they appreciate
the curated line-up of films. It could be a great way to meet
people in the lobby and arrange to go for a coffee and a chat
later on. I've done it.

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: MRO to Nightfox on Sat Nov 21 2020 03:46 pm

I don't really mind going to the theater by myself. I've done it a
few times. I don't think it's depressing. Sometimes I've just
wanted to see a movie.

yeah, but you look pathetic to everyone else!

wonk wonnnnnk

I don't see what's so pathetic aboout that. Sometimes if I want to do something, I do it, and I'm not going to sit around worrying about what other people think.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Ogg to All on Sat Nov 21 2020 06:45 pm

yeah, but you look pathetic to everyone else!
wonk wonnnnnk

That's your perception. But I have seen many people attend
repertoire theatres, single, simply because they appreciate
the curated line-up of films. It could be a great way to meet
people in the lobby and arrange to go for a coffee and a chat
later on. I've done it.

i'm going to have to say your perception is wrong and 99.99% of movie goers go with another person.

nobody wants to meet some creepy dude in the lobby and arrage for a coffee and chat later on.

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Nightfox to MRO on Sat Nov 21 2020 06:10 pm

yeah, but you look pathetic to everyone else!

wonk wonnnnnk

I don't see what's so pathetic aboout that. Sometimes if I want to do something, I do it, and I'm not going to sit around worrying about what other people think.

you should just download it and watch it with your pants off

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: MRO to Ogg on Sat Nov 21 2020 09:21 pm

i'm going to have to say your perception is wrong and 99.99% of movie goers go with another person.

nobody wants to meet some creepy dude in the lobby and arrage for a coffee and chat later on.

What does arranging for a coffee and chat have to do with going to see a movie?

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Sprite to Vlk-451 on Sat Nov 21 2020 05:24 am

I only ever went to the movies when I still went on dates. Without
someone else, that shit is depressing and expensive. I can just
pirate it, stay home, eat anything I already have, and do all the

I don't really mind going to the theater by myself. I've done it a few times. I don't think it's depressing. Sometimes I've just wanted to
see a movie.

I went on my own once, and I was the only one in the theater!

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Hello MRO!

** On Saturday 21.11.20 - 22:21, mro wrote to Ogg:

nobody wants to meet some creepy dude in the lobby and
arrage for a coffee and chat later on.

Don't be so despondent upon yourself. Maybe you're not so
creepy as you perceive to be.

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Nightfox to MRO on Sat Nov 21 2020 10:58 pm

Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: MRO to Ogg on Sat Nov 21 2020 09:21 pm

i'm going to have to say your perception is wrong and 99.99% of
movie goers go with another person.

nobody wants to meet some creepy dude in the lobby and arrage for a
coffee and chat later on.

What does arranging for a coffee and chat have to do with going to see a movie?

i was replying to ogg. he said he creeps around in the movie theater lobby for tail.

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Dennisk to Nightfox on Sun Nov 22 2020 09:31 pm

I don't really mind going to the theater by myself. I've done it a
few times. I don't think it's depressing. Sometimes I've just
wanted to see a movie.

I went on my own once, and I was the only one in the theater!

i actually did that one time but someone else came in really late and sat in the front.

i cant remember what the movie was, but of course it was during the end of it's run in the theaters.

normally when i go to a theater there is someone that stinks real bad next to me or they are messing with their phone. that's why i want and enclosed cubicle.

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Dennisk to Nightfox on Sun Nov 22 2020 09:31 pm

I don't really mind going to the theater by myself. I've done it a
few times. I don't think it's depressing. Sometimes I've just
wanted to see a movie.

I went on my own once, and I was the only one in the theater!

It's cool to have a whole theater to yourself. :)

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A theater to yourself?

Could be nice, but that would meen that things have really changed.....

Back in the day i used to go to the theater, it was mostly to make out with a random female movie goer like myself... It seemed like that was the thing back then... :)

Nightfox wrote to Dennisk <=-

Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Dennisk to Nightfox on Sun Nov 22 2020 09:31 pm

I don't really mind going to the theater by myself. I've done it a
few times. I don't think it's depressing. Sometimes I've just
wanted to see a movie.

I went on my own once, and I was the only one in the theater!

It's cool to have a whole theater to yourself. :)

Nightfox

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Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: MRO to Divarin on Sun Nov 08 2020 05:46 pm

you read?

LOSERRRR

I love this shit.
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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: HusTler to Divarin on Tue Nov 10 2020 02:26 pm

Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?

... I never knew a girl who was ruined by a good book.

I've known too many who were ruined by bad ones. The last girl I was seriously involved with was posessed by the anitiquated rhetorical garbage of Andrea Dworkin.
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Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Moondog to Coolbeans on Thu Nov 12 2020 01:42 am

Vic Mignogna's productions are on the better end,
mainly because he knows how to frame shots and light the sets ands actors like they did with TOS. Tim Russ has been able to bring in acting buddies om his projects, however the pacing and camera angles aren't quite right

CBS should consider greenlighting a Star Trek Anime so that Vic can do what he does now for the actual series rather then as a fan production, but also because then more people and money would be involved, and hopefully they would be able to fix those things.

I know about Lower Decks. I think a Star Trek Cartoon Comedy was a decent idea, the exection is pretty okay from what I've seen of the first 3 or 4 episodes. I'm talking about a legit Anime, hopefully with a more dramatic tone that follows the classic formula.

Imagine the cut away to the main casts "AHHH" recation when the Enemy Romulan reveals some awful plot twist, or all the mecha style crack headed design that would get put into the ships.
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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: MRO to HusTler on Wed Nov 11 2020 06:14 pm

i think marcus theaters do plexiglass. i want my own little cubicle anyways.
i always get stinky people or loud people. i want to be able to kick back and snooze.

I miss pulling up on the drive in movie theater in my full sized v8 family sedan, with it's body on frame design and bench seats. Back when fuel economy was the land of milk and honey, and everyone smoked camels -- no filter.

We really lost something.
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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: MRO to HusTler on Sat Nov 14 2020 12:32 am

I Fall asleep at most movies nowadays because they are so freaking long.

I went to check average movie run times by year and found this:

https://www.businessinsider.com/are-movies-getting-longer-2016-6?op=1
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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Sprite to Vlk-451 on Sat Nov 21 2020 05:24 am

I can't wait to return to those days. Kudos to you, keep up the good fight!

Being single? It's the shit.
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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Nightfox to Vlk-451 on Sat Nov 21 2020 10:49 am

I don't really mind going to the theater by myself. I've done it a few times. I don't think it's depressing. Sometimes I've just wanted to see a movie.

I guess it depends on the movie. I watched Ready Player One alone, maybe that's why I was depressed.
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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: MRO to Nightfox on Sat Nov 21 2020 03:46 pm

yeah, but you look pathetic to everyone else!

Better then going with your Mom.
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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: MRO to Nightfox on Sun Nov 22 2020 10:53 am

i was replying to ogg. he said he creeps around in the movie theater lobby for tail.

It's catchers-catch-can when you're the type of person who knows how to connect to telnet.
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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Vlk-451 to Sprite on Sun Nov 29 2020 01:20:57

Being single? It's the shit.

I don't think that's what I was originally referring to, actually. However the coffee has not started to kick in yet and I do not feel motivated enough to go back into the thread and check.
As far as being single, I'd have to say that it's far preferable to the last relationship I was in. I took more knives in the back from that treacherous liar than I have in many years of dating before it. I still hold out hopes that there will be someone decent to share my life with at some point, though.
If it comes down to being in a relationship like my last or none at all, though, I'll gladly pick none at all.

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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Sprite to Vlk-451 on Sat Nov 21 2020 05:24 am

Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Vlk-451 to HusTler on Fri Nov 20 2020 07:30:18

I only ever went to the movies when I still went on dates. Without someone else, that shit is depressing and expensive. I can just pirate it, stay home, eat anything I already have, and do all the drugs I want.

I can't wait to return to those days. Kudos to you, keep up the good fight!

Bachelor life is the shit.
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Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Sprite to Vlk-451 on Sun Nov 29 2020 06:13 am

Re: Re: Post-Hollywood?
By: Vlk-451 to Sprite on Sun Nov 29 2020 01:20:57

Being single? It's the shit.

I don't think that's what I was originally referring to, actually.
However the coffee has not started to kick in yet and I do not feel motivated enough to go back into the thread and check.
As far as being single, I'd have to say that it's far preferable to the last relationship I was in. I took more knives in the back from that treacherous liar than I have in many years of dating before it. I still hold out hopes that there will be someone decent to share my life with at some point, though.
If it comes down to being in a relationship like my last or none at all, though, I'll gladly pick none at all.

Last thing I want is some entitled rapits sleeping next to me who wants to steal all the money out of my wallet and tell me she loves me while she's plotting to kill me and take the insurance money. Fuck that.
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