• Re: Our President doesn't

    From Dr. What@VERT/TRANSPO to Ed Vance on Wed Nov 19 06:50:00 2025
    What little I have read of President Donald Trump He isn't interested in being a King.
    Ifeel like He wants to be a Dictator .

    You should start by getting some help for your TDS.

    If you think he's acting like a dictator, you must have missed most of the Biden Regime.

    Does He know He was elected to Serve The People of the USA?

    This is a question you should be asking the Democrats. They are the ones who have been acting like they are our rulers.

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  • From jimmylogan@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Nov 20 13:15:41 2025
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to jimmylogan <=-

    jimmylogan wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

    I think it elections that Donald wants to do away with.

    I haven't found proof that he has a plan to eliminate elections
    entirely. What is clear: he has stated he wants major changes
    to how elections are run (for example, new citizenship proof
    requirements, ending mail-in ballots, tighter controls).

    The fact that he didn't respect the 2020 election results and incited
    an insurrection to overturn the election was our first clue.

    You're right that he didn't respect the 2020 results - but that's
    not new in politics. We've had candidates dispute outcomes before
    (think "hanging chads"), so it's not unique to him.


    As for "inciting an insurrection," I'm not personally convinced
    he intended for anything violent to happen. I wasn't there,
    and none of us really know the mindset of every person who showed
    up or what pushed them individually. That part is still debated
    and may be for a long time.

    Trump telling people before the 2024 election "vote for me and you'll
    never have to vote again" was the second clue.

    I took that the same way I did when he said it: campaign rhetoric.
    Every candidate exaggerates during election season. He doesn't have
    the power to end elections any more than any other president would.





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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to jimmylogan on Fri Nov 21 09:26:44 2025
    Re: Re: Our President doesn't
    By: jimmylogan to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Nov 20 2025 13:15:41

    You're right that he didn't respect the 2020 results - but that's
    not new in politics. We've had candidates dispute outcomes before
    (think "hanging chads"), so it's not unique to him.


    As for "inciting an insurrection," I'm not personally convinced
    he intended for anything violent to happen. I wasn't there,
    and none of us really know the mindset of every person who showed
    up or what pushed them individually. That part is still debated
    and may be for a long time.

    He respected them as much as HRC did in 2016. While he was *much* more vocal about it, she did just as much to undermine the process by introducing the "collusion" boogey-man into the public mind.

    The issue I have with him and 1/6 is real simple. It really doesn't matter what he told the crowd. The fact that he decided to hold a "loser's rally" on the day that the votes were being certified, in the same city, *and* supposedly (by his own admission) asked for more police because he thought it might get
    violent, is more than enough for me. The fact that he continues to deny any culpability for what happened is just icing.

    If he'd held his rally at Mara Lago and the violence in DC still happened, maybe it isn't his fault. If he'd dome *nothing* on that day, as some of his adivisors were suggesting he should do, maybe it isn't his fault. Holding a rally on the same day, in the same city -- something that even sore losers HRC and Gore didn't do -- makes it something he at the very least shares blame for. ---
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Fri Nov 21 21:03:05 2025
    Re: Re: Our President doesn't
    By: Dumas Walker to jimmylogan on Fri Nov 21 2025 09:26 am

    The issue I have with him and 1/6 is real simple. It really doesn't
    matter what he told the crowd.

    it absolutely does matter what he told the crowd. and it's important what
    he wasn't allowed to do when things got out of hand.


    The fact that he decided to hold
    a "loser's rally" on the day that the votes were being certified,
    in the same city,


    why wouldn't he hold it there? that's the best place to have it.

    *and* supposedly (by his own admission) asked
    for more police because he thought it might get violent, is more
    than enough for me. The fact that he continues to deny any
    culpability for what happened is just icing.

    i guess you forgot about everything that was happening. people liked to
    riot. antifa members were all over. one guy got 70k for a video he shot and
    he was a big antifa guy. pretending to be a maga. they say there's no proof but there's video and photo proof. also fbi agents were in the crowd causing problems. trump's speeches were edited by the media.

    democrats were playing dirty.

    if trump wanted a insurrection he could have done it and done it well.
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